• Mike_Penis [any]
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      4 years ago

      why is this bad? I know literally nothing about this

      • GraydonCarter [he/him]
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        4 years ago

        It's not tbh. There would be absolutely no reason to vote present initially besides to push for some kind of concession if you are going to ultimately vote for her rather than block it. I can't imagine it was just a bluff called unless those five are complete idiots to alienate themselves for no reason.

        • zifnab25 [he/him, any]
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          4 years ago

          They got primaried, they got slandered, and they got their committees yanked.

          Pretty sure we're past alienated.

        • hogposting [he/him,comrade/them]
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          4 years ago

          And they got a concession -- PAYGO was scrapped.

          It's also important to note that forcing a second ballot =/= booting Pelosi. If you force a second ballot, you just re-do the vote, and you can repeat that process until someone moves. There were something like 40 ballots in a Speaker election in the 1920s. In that sort of a situation, it would be super easy for Democrats to turn the liberal media complex against progressives and blame them for stalling out the government.