The prominent user who left recently made me realize that while this place is a lot less full of bigotry than reddit, that is a low fucking bar.

What are concrete steps users and mods can take to make this a more welcoming space? I'm assuming the majority of the bigotry is coming from inside the house, bar the occasional raid.

Banning shitstains is good and all, but that is only a part of community management. How do we proactively create a better user culture here? How do we better establish norms of behavior?

  • astigmatic [none/use name]
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    can you point specifically at what forms of bigotry you’ve identified here and are interested in fighting

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        i mean no i dont use this site so much lol you can just answer me it’s fine i would want to root it out too!

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        I personally haven’t experienced it. I’m sure it’s there but I definitely wouldn’t say it happens “all the time,” I can only speak for myself tho

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        This type of answer is not helpful to reduce bigotry

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        sorry i’ll try to be aware of everything that’s ever happened here so i never have to ask a question again

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        Why do people always comment this kind of stuff whenever someone asks for examples. It's major reddit brain to assume everybody asking a question is doing so in bad faith.

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            Yeah trying to get rid of the bigoted elements of this site is a good thing but the admins are kinda fucking it up by being assholes to everyone the past day or two

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        I don't browse the site super often, and also don't comment too much unless I feel i have something relevant to share. I personally haven't seen any bigoted or ban-worthy comments while browsing (I do see lots of deleted comments, though, so maybe you guys get to them before I even see them). I have seen multiple times people asking for examples though, and the response is always similar to what you are saying. It would be nice to get examples so I can be aware of any blindspots I may personally have and help aid in reporting them if I see similar content.

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        i do have a general sense of the issues here that doesn’t fully align with op but that doesn’t mean i act in bad faith. i literally do not know what they’re talking about. i deplore any and all forms of bigotry and i’m fully committed to fighting them. but i need to know what it is rather that some vague general gesturing at unpopular posts. if you think my post itself is “bigotry” then well of course i’m not going to fight myself because i know i meant nothing of the sort? it’s a sensible enough question and legitimate confusion getting a pretty hostile reception

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          sorry, there's just so much bad faith "whatabout" going around this morning and people constantly asking for evidence and then moving the goalposts when you give it. guess i fell into the trap of being hostile. it really is exhausting around here, though. gonna log off and go grill. like legit, sorry for taking your post as such.

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            it’s ok, i do position myself in a way that i know invites strong disagreements sometimes. but that’s definitely something i would prefer to talk about rather than just suspecting it’s actually what op means (because i will continue to have big disagreements on how to handle this stuff and i hope it doesn’t end up with a ban and seriously i’d much rather it wasn’t a source of discomfort for anyone)