Not if you live in DC. A job is a job. The government employs a lot of people. I don't think being a low level federal employee is grounds for being sacrificed in the name of Trump or Biden or our entertainment. Your mailman is a federal employee for christ's sake.
Ahh fair enough. I think that also begs the question of when is someone going past just having a job. And I have uncritical support for all mail workers. One of the few decent govt institutions we had (obviously they can all be improved or smashed if we cant improve them)
I was overgeneralizing I admit. But it does make me wonder when someone is considered to be a class traitor or when is that line crossed. If that makes sense?
I would say it's when the actions they take aren't even necessary for their own sustenance and they're just supporting the oppressing class for the hell of it. People doing their jobs because those are the best jobs they could find to sustain their families aren't class traitors, but those who deliberately seek out a job in the CIA or some other bourgeois instrument are traitors.
What do we do with those working within the halls of the current government if they refuse cooperation during a transitional phase to a dictatorship of the proletariat?
I’m just trying to think through those difficult questions. Revolution is no dinner party after all.
I don't know man. I'm personally of the opinion that the left is pretty weak so all throughout the revolution we should use the minimum amount of violence. I don't see why lethal force would need to be used against those people, but I understand that in the moment casualties happen. Maybe someone who's more knowledgeable about the specific events that transpire in revolutions can give a grounded answer.
Armed struggle is the only way, especially within the imperial core. With as much violence that is used for the maintenance and continuation of empire, it will take at least an equal amount to smash that state. But yes the left is basically nonexistent here
I mean are the workers at Walmart collaborating? Are amazon workers?
I think being forced into wage slavery at a corporation is different than working within the halls of the capitalist, imperialist core of the world.
Not if you live in DC. A job is a job. The government employs a lot of people. I don't think being a low level federal employee is grounds for being sacrificed in the name of Trump or Biden or our entertainment. Your mailman is a federal employee for christ's sake.
Ahh fair enough. I think that also begs the question of when is someone going past just having a job. And I have uncritical support for all mail workers. One of the few decent govt institutions we had (obviously they can all be improved or smashed if we cant improve them)
Can't you say the same about all public employees? The workers in the capitol aren't guilty of the actions of the statespeople who use it.
I was overgeneralizing I admit. But it does make me wonder when someone is considered to be a class traitor or when is that line crossed. If that makes sense?
I would say it's when the actions they take aren't even necessary for their own sustenance and they're just supporting the oppressing class for the hell of it. People doing their jobs because those are the best jobs they could find to sustain their families aren't class traitors, but those who deliberately seek out a job in the CIA or some other bourgeois instrument are traitors.
What do we do with those working within the halls of the current government if they refuse cooperation during a transitional phase to a dictatorship of the proletariat?
I’m just trying to think through those difficult questions. Revolution is no dinner party after all.
I don't know man. I'm personally of the opinion that the left is pretty weak so all throughout the revolution we should use the minimum amount of violence. I don't see why lethal force would need to be used against those people, but I understand that in the moment casualties happen. Maybe someone who's more knowledgeable about the specific events that transpire in revolutions can give a grounded answer.
Armed struggle is the only way, especially within the imperial core. With as much violence that is used for the maintenance and continuation of empire, it will take at least an equal amount to smash that state. But yes the left is basically nonexistent here
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Most of them are wage slaves who are oppressed by capital