lmao they could have executed every politician in congress today if they wanted
BULLSHIT. Congress has security - security that shoots people when they're actually close to getting anywhere that matters, as we saw today. Worst case scenario, if the reactionaries were armed and the police sided with them, there'd at least be a shootout between loyalists and insurgents. And then you can be damn sure federal forces would show up and bring everything to a stop.
But it wouldn't even get that far. A handful of assholes in Michigan can't get together and fantasize about kidnapping the governor without someone turning informant. How would you arm an insurgent army and send it on the Capitol without the FBI knowing?? And the FBI wouldn't go along with the coup because they're happy where they are. Biden doesn't challenge their power.
actually trying to gaslight people into thinking this wasn’t inches from a fascist coup?
Calling this a coup attempt is laughable. You're a riot. We should arrest you for an attempted coup with how riotous you're being.
The military-security apparatus is already in charge. Are they going to upset the stock market and tarnish their own image by killing a bunch of Congress members most of whom are lobbyist-darlings with no popular followers anyway? There's a difference between fantasy and reality and you're not living in the right one.
You know. The fascist wave of the 30s was all spearheaded by fascists, which had been involved in WW1 and colonial conflicts (China, Morocco, Ethiopia...).
There are two takes from that, one is that fascism only becomes the dominant ideology when capitalism is in extreme peril (WW1 had left many countries, even the neutral ones in a very weak situation, this compounded by the trouble controling the colonies of smaller powers like Spain and Portugal. Big tent radical left movements were poping all over western europe with different levels of success, and the USSR was quickly industrialising, capitalism really felt like it could be coming to an end.). That's not the case here. In fact most people think that the world will end before capitalism does.
The other one is that you need fascists much more used to violence to turn small incidents into a massacre. Nowadays the people with most blood on their hands all do it from safety and far away as if they were playing a videogame.
Just think of the premise of Qanon, with half of the people there at least being pilled as fuck. And yet they did nothing. The forces of reaction are strong and loud, but they are not ready for action yet.
I think its likely that these people would go home dismayed, but keep their radicalization and try more shit elsewhere. However these people very openly displayed their faces and showed a clear lack of organization, I think its also likely that a lot of them will be arrested in a crackdown. I suppose in the end the only way to know what happens long term is to just wait and see, personally I just hope that something happens to stop them from going on and doing something truly heinous like a mass shooting or lynch mob.
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BULLSHIT. Congress has security - security that shoots people when they're actually close to getting anywhere that matters, as we saw today. Worst case scenario, if the reactionaries were armed and the police sided with them, there'd at least be a shootout between loyalists and insurgents. And then you can be damn sure federal forces would show up and bring everything to a stop.
But it wouldn't even get that far. A handful of assholes in Michigan can't get together and fantasize about kidnapping the governor without someone turning informant. How would you arm an insurgent army and send it on the Capitol without the FBI knowing?? And the FBI wouldn't go along with the coup because they're happy where they are. Biden doesn't challenge their power.
Calling this a coup attempt is laughable. You're a riot. We should arrest you for an attempted coup with how riotous you're being.
The military-security apparatus is already in charge. Are they going to upset the stock market and tarnish their own image by killing a bunch of Congress members most of whom are lobbyist-darlings with no popular followers anyway? There's a difference between fantasy and reality and you're not living in the right one.
But they would never. Not yet.
You know. The fascist wave of the 30s was all spearheaded by fascists, which had been involved in WW1 and colonial conflicts (China, Morocco, Ethiopia...).
There are two takes from that, one is that fascism only becomes the dominant ideology when capitalism is in extreme peril (WW1 had left many countries, even the neutral ones in a very weak situation, this compounded by the trouble controling the colonies of smaller powers like Spain and Portugal. Big tent radical left movements were poping all over western europe with different levels of success, and the USSR was quickly industrialising, capitalism really felt like it could be coming to an end.). That's not the case here. In fact most people think that the world will end before capitalism does.
The other one is that you need fascists much more used to violence to turn small incidents into a massacre. Nowadays the people with most blood on their hands all do it from safety and far away as if they were playing a videogame.
Just think of the premise of Qanon, with half of the people there at least being pilled as fuck. And yet they did nothing. The forces of reaction are strong and loud, but they are not ready for action yet.
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I think its likely that these people would go home dismayed, but keep their radicalization and try more shit elsewhere. However these people very openly displayed their faces and showed a clear lack of organization, I think its also likely that a lot of them will be arrested in a crackdown. I suppose in the end the only way to know what happens long term is to just wait and see, personally I just hope that something happens to stop them from going on and doing something truly heinous like a mass shooting or lynch mob.