Right wingers are already reframing the event with whataboutism on BLM and Antifa and are screaming 1984 at Trump being censored on social media. They see it as a massive victory while libs cry over institutions being wrecked or whatever and fawn over Pence and McConnell for not supporting an insurrection that would fuck up a system they benefit from. My own lib friends are convinced that it was only due to lack of police that it got that far but refuse to acknowledge that cops were probably helping them. Every time I say that I get called an alarmist but fuck it, this is probably gonna be the norm from now on.

  • Steely_Gaige [none/use name]
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    4 years ago

    I would argue the comparison is fair, but I certainly agree with the points you made still. It was an exercise of the power they wield, like you said. Easy if you've got the backing of the state violence apparatus.

    I'm not sure it really matters if the libs underestimate them. I don't know if they have any answer for it, regardless of how they view them. I think the libs would have to try to match that power, but they don't do that, just acquiesce.

    I'm probably talking out of my ass, but crazy shit anyhow.

    • OhWell [he/him]
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      4 years ago

      I would argue the comparison is fair, but I certainly agree with the points you made still. It was an exercise of the power they wield, like you said. Easy if you’ve got the backing of the state violence apparatus.

      I disagree, cause the Bundy family were in dispute over a government agency and in a small town. I live in the rural south. I can attest that the ATF are corrupt and usually in small towns, you have government agencies like ATF, BLM and then the city police who live there outside their jurisdiction whom are also corrupt. Yesterday was an army of far right people taking on the entire federal government. Not over a land dispute or something shady going on a small town. All over a sitting president whom they worship.

      I’m not sure it really matters if the libs underestimate them. I don’t know if they have any answer for it, regardless of how they view them. I think the libs would have to try to match that power, but they don’t do that, just acquiesce.

      Yeah, it don't matter in the long run, I agree there. Libs are still smugly talking about how these people are a joke. Libs are smug, over-educated wimps. They aren't about to arm themselves and spend years training and preparing for something like this. We saw the most they will do yesterday, which is get on Twitter and whine about how the cops aren't arresting them. Libs are absolutely useless and I hope yesterday proved to people they aren't going to radicalize. They'll just sit there and hope for the cops to save the day, then act surprised when the cops side with fascists.