Actual libs get a pass, they're anticapitalists like us. Any capitalist claiming to be a lib or someone claiming a capitalist a lib is just messed up from the life-long programming
There is no such thing as an anti-capitalist liberal. Liberalism is the ideology of capitalism. Liberals created the capitalist world order. That's not life long programming, thats several hundred years of political theory and basic definitions.
If you want to pretend that liberal means something else great, just don't claim that everyone else in the world using the word correctly is wrong.
I mean I think Richard Rorty makes a compelling case that anti-capitalism actually carries the purported goals of liberalism further than so called "liberal" economics and so he was happy to identify self-consistently as an anti-capitalist liberal.
The French liberals that carried out the Revolution would be rolling their eyes at you. The English and French political theorists that invented liberalism would be rolling their eyes at you
If liberals are staunch anti-capitalists, then name one
The french revolutionaries literally liberated themselves of the. same. things. we need again
You think liberal just means belief in liberation? Okay, nice that you have your own special definition that no other leftist uses.
But you're messing with me.
No I'm being honest. Just like every other time I've replied to you
trickses
Where's the trick? You're the one claiming every other leftist is brainwashed because we don't use your personal definition of liberal. We use the one based in theory and history
And if you want to prove us wrong. Name one anti-capitalist liberal
The french revolutionaries literally liberated themselves of the. same. things. we need again.
The fuck you talking about that was a bourgeois revolution that overthrew feudalism. There's a reason Les Mis is about a revolt that took place 40 years later.
It really is interesting that someone pushes these own ideas of rage and smugness towards someone else. Force enough and I'll get annoyed and you'll get a self-fulfilling prophecy? Plausible, but it's still weird until those qualities are displayed
Actual libs get a pass, they're anticapitalists like us. Any capitalist claiming to be a lib or someone claiming a capitalist a lib is just messed up from the life-long programming
That's not what liberal means.
There is no such thing as an anti-capitalist liberal. Liberalism is the ideology of capitalism. Liberals created the capitalist world order. That's not life long programming, thats several hundred years of political theory and basic definitions.
If you want to pretend that liberal means something else great, just don't claim that everyone else in the world using the word correctly is wrong.
I mean I think Richard Rorty makes a compelling case that anti-capitalism actually carries the purported goals of liberalism further than so called "liberal" economics and so he was happy to identify self-consistently as an anti-capitalist liberal.
Very yank-centric. The rest of the world rolls their eyes
Quick, what is the major right wing party in Australia called?
I'm part Czech part British part French. You'd be wrong in all of those countries too.
Can you also please tell me what the name of the party is that all the fascists created in Japan after ww2 and which still rules to this day?
Very czech/Brit/French/Japan -centric view. The rest of the world rolls their eyes
one of us, one of us
You mean like Nazis called themselves socialists? Do you believe them??
(Never trust a right winger. Never trust what they call others, never trust what they try to call themselves)
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So you're one more throwing slurs at anti-capitalists etc. Mask off moment
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Libs are included in that.
The French liberals that carried out the Revolution would be rolling their eyes at you. The English and French political theorists that invented liberalism would be rolling their eyes at you
If liberals are staunch anti-capitalists, then name one
The french revolutionaries literally liberated themselves of the. same. things. we need again.
But you're messing with me. I now recognize the account from the other trickses you naughty ;)
You think liberal just means belief in liberation? Okay, nice that you have your own special definition that no other leftist uses.
No I'm being honest. Just like every other time I've replied to you
Where's the trick? You're the one claiming every other leftist is brainwashed because we don't use your personal definition of liberal. We use the one based in theory and history
And if you want to prove us wrong. Name one anti-capitalist liberal
Come on now. "You're claiming" you say on things once again come from your head. You're not even trying after all the friendly banter we tried.
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Are you implying that a rhetorical mistake of someone assuming own thoughts as others' is somehow a disability?
Liberalism doesn't mean liberation lmao
The fuck you talking about that was a bourgeois revolution that overthrew feudalism. There's a reason Les Mis is about a revolt that took place 40 years later.
Did you know that feudalism lives on in capitalism
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Yeah sure, they might do. What does that have to do with the issue at hand?
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Very interesting! What feeling of yours makes you insert rage to my post?
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You can take this as a "no u" if you want
It really is interesting that someone pushes these own ideas of rage and smugness towards someone else. Force enough and I'll get annoyed and you'll get a self-fulfilling prophecy? Plausible, but it's still weird until those qualities are displayed
I'm not a yank and what BurgerPunk told you is 100% correct.
But I suppose you're just trolling for attention.
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Their replies are an endless string of "no u"-s
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With respect, liberalism is the ideology of free markets and private property. It is the ideology of capitalism. To be a "lib" is to be a capitalist.
If you still call yourself a lib and not a socialist, you should stop. It is political illiteracy.
Do you mean Libertarian? As in referring to anarchists?
This is a joke right? Literally have never heard anyone say this