A question that I've been mulling over for the most of 2020 is when can I honestly expect the United States to no longer exist, because honestly I don't see this nation as very stable and it's pretty clear to most of us that the neoliberal world order is already on a shaky foundation that could very easily collapse from climate change. Places like California and Australia are catching fire on a regular basis now, much of the American Southwest has giant population centers with no fucking local water source, and cities like Miami, New Orleans, and to a lesser extent New York City are at fairly high risk of flooding from potential sea level rises. Increased temperatures shifting ideal arable land Northward which would at the very least require a vast movement of American agricultural land to meet the changing climate. At the absolute very least there's bound to be a mass migration away from Arizona, Southern California, New Mexico, West Texas, Utah, Nevada, Florida, and Louisiana from there either being no water or too much

The point is, I'm 20 years old and I completely expect to see the collapse of this nation in my lifetime. My personal guess is sometime around 2075-2085 after the negative effects of global warming get too out of hand and major disasters happen on a regular basis, combined with the rapidly decreasing material conditions for the vast majority of the United States causing tens if not hundreds of millions to be homeless, without secure food and or/water, healthcare, or have any of the basic necessities of life to be available to them; and the United States is going to be so full of angry, desperate dissidents that no amount of police violence can hold it together and the nation just falls apart into millions of not ideologically but defacto anarchist communes of people scratching out an existence digging up their yards to plant potatoes and corn

But that's just my take, what do you guys think the next 100 odd years are going to look like in this country?

  • Mardoniush [she/her]
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    4 years ago

    Well the time for them to start doing that as a logical choice was 1995. If they wait until their actual quality of life is under threat, all they can do is eat the poor until their tech base collapses due to lack of economy of scale, then flee to NZ/Mars and live in a box until death. There are decades of lead time for climate change decisions, and it wont hit every rich person at once. That's the issue.

    The rich in stable countries will happily throw their fellows in countries undergoing collapse under the bus, and loot the bones to maintain their lifestyle. Till there's nothing left to loot.