it's really interesting how we're primed to understand a second American civil war will occur over contradictory cultural interests, i.e., red states vs blue states, libs vs chuds, as if any of that means anything at all to the state or the vectors of economic power. It's just symbols of personal expression for the public all the way down.
"red states have more guns so we win" Yeah ok the federal government has drones and only cares about your status as wage slave to the ruling class.
The US state has no qualms bombing American citizens, such as in Philadelphia in 1985. The real thing to consider is that no sufficiently armed and militant movement would be allowed to get to a point of substantial power, or at least the state would stop at nothing to prevent one from gaining power. Americans usually don't need to be bombed because we're docile subjects. Stepping out of the bounds of docile subject is when spying, assassinations, police crackdowns come in.
My thoughts are kinda scattered right now, sorry. What I mean to say is that even if all red state militia people picked up their AR15s tomorrow, they'd be pacified within a week if that's what the state commanded.
it’s really interesting how we’re primed to understand a second American civil war will occur over contradictory cultural interests
not really interesting, just obvious. If you expect your dog to not eat your steak, well that's called being a lib.
“red states have more guns so we win” Yeah ok the federal government has drones and only cares about your status as wage slave to the ruling class.
the thugs who defend the ruling class mostly share sympathies with the red states. A pretty lib-energy post IMO, it's the kind of take where you just keep pretending that the rich are able to control the white nationalists, until suddenly they don't anymore. And up until that very second, anyone who says otherwise is a "nut job doomer", and then you get busy denying their next prediction which is bound to come true within 12 months. Not you specifically, just the people who carry the energy of this particular post.
Just like everyone was pretending trump wouldn't get nominated, then wouldn't win, that corona was nothing, that trump is going to concede peacefully (you are here), that the rest of this year will be a recovery, etc et al
I have to admit I often have a level of cynicism that gets in the way of recognizing any actual threat. I'm very skeptical that any level of warfare, balkanization, or whatever based on the split of "libs vs chuds" would ever happen. If you're talking about skirmishes or random acts of violence or some kind of pressure on the state that ends up hurting already marginalized groups, then yeah, I'm on board. That's going to happen and already is. I'm definitely not someone who believes there will be a recovery. The creep of terror is already here. We're living in it.
I'm skeptical that the "red states" would split from the "blue states" because I don't believe that's a real thing that reflects any likelihood of armed combat against those with contrary cultural values. My chud uncle hates my commie guts but am I supposed to believe he'll be part of some secessionist movement? Some neo-Confederacy? I'm not convinced.
Should I believe they're dangerous and getting more emboldened? Sure, yeah. There's going to be an increase in right-wing terror. Is that tantamount to their Qanon delusions? I have no idea.
Guess I expressed the wrong thing and might be talking to the wrong people on this one. I have too many chuds at work talking daily about the red states forming a new government and completely splitting from the blue ones because "red states have all the guns." There's no energy in any of the levers of power to do anything like that. There's plenty of energy in I don't know...pogroms or lynching or street patrols of fascists marching into poor neighborhoods, which is how I see this energy expressing itself.
Sorry, I'm rambling. Thanks though for the crit though, honestly. Please call me a lib when I deserve it
it's really interesting how we're primed to understand a second American civil war will occur over contradictory cultural interests, i.e., red states vs blue states, libs vs chuds, as if any of that means anything at all to the state or the vectors of economic power. It's just symbols of personal expression for the public all the way down.
"red states have more guns so we win" Yeah ok the federal government has drones and only cares about your status as wage slave to the ruling class.
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The US state has no qualms bombing American citizens, such as in Philadelphia in 1985. The real thing to consider is that no sufficiently armed and militant movement would be allowed to get to a point of substantial power, or at least the state would stop at nothing to prevent one from gaining power. Americans usually don't need to be bombed because we're docile subjects. Stepping out of the bounds of docile subject is when spying, assassinations, police crackdowns come in.
My thoughts are kinda scattered right now, sorry. What I mean to say is that even if all red state militia people picked up their AR15s tomorrow, they'd be pacified within a week if that's what the state commanded.
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not really interesting, just obvious. If you expect your dog to not eat your steak, well that's called being a lib.
the thugs who defend the ruling class mostly share sympathies with the red states. A pretty lib-energy post IMO, it's the kind of take where you just keep pretending that the rich are able to control the white nationalists, until suddenly they don't anymore. And up until that very second, anyone who says otherwise is a "nut job doomer", and then you get busy denying their next prediction which is bound to come true within 12 months. Not you specifically, just the people who carry the energy of this particular post.
Just like everyone was pretending trump wouldn't get nominated, then wouldn't win, that corona was nothing, that trump is going to concede peacefully (you are here), that the rest of this year will be a recovery, etc et al
I have to admit I often have a level of cynicism that gets in the way of recognizing any actual threat. I'm very skeptical that any level of warfare, balkanization, or whatever based on the split of "libs vs chuds" would ever happen. If you're talking about skirmishes or random acts of violence or some kind of pressure on the state that ends up hurting already marginalized groups, then yeah, I'm on board. That's going to happen and already is. I'm definitely not someone who believes there will be a recovery. The creep of terror is already here. We're living in it.
I'm skeptical that the "red states" would split from the "blue states" because I don't believe that's a real thing that reflects any likelihood of armed combat against those with contrary cultural values. My chud uncle hates my commie guts but am I supposed to believe he'll be part of some secessionist movement? Some neo-Confederacy? I'm not convinced.
Should I believe they're dangerous and getting more emboldened? Sure, yeah. There's going to be an increase in right-wing terror. Is that tantamount to their Qanon delusions? I have no idea.
Guess I expressed the wrong thing and might be talking to the wrong people on this one. I have too many chuds at work talking daily about the red states forming a new government and completely splitting from the blue ones because "red states have all the guns." There's no energy in any of the levers of power to do anything like that. There's plenty of energy in I don't know...pogroms or lynching or street patrols of fascists marching into poor neighborhoods, which is how I see this energy expressing itself.
Sorry, I'm rambling. Thanks though for the crit though, honestly. Please call me a lib when I deserve it