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fun fact: cows are carnivores. CW: baby chicken being eaten alive
Removed by modNSFWThe video is to prove a point really fast, but, cows actually do only eat proteins. They have three stomachs that they use to feed grass to bacterial colonies, which they then pull into their fourth stomach to eat, with any of the grass that's left un-eaten by the bacteria being shit straight out without being processed any further. They don't eat the grass, the grass is there to feed what they do eat, which is supplemented by eating any large animal small enough to fit in their mouth. I read a study once that almost all cows when dissected had at least 1 animal in their digestive system at a time.
The notion that cows are good peaceful harmless herbivores who eat nothing but grass is nonsense. Here's a video of a cow eating the corpse of a donkey. Of note: there's grass right next to the body. And it isn't just a result of cows being fucked up by human domestication, wild deer (who you cannot blame on humans malnourishing it or contaminating its feed or whatever) do it too.
constructing an elaborate worldview out of a kindergarten level understanding of biology and then getting extremely smug about it annoys me relentlessly. Cows would eat you if they had the chance
theres a struggle session elsewhere, this is just a PSA to let ppl know that kindergarten biology is not sturdy enough to build an ideology off of. Edit: and, they arent oppertunitist carnivores. I cant find the study rn but nearly all cows who are dissected have an animal in their digestive system
who is basing their ideology off of what cows eat?
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the bar is getting set real high for "most inane take" this year.
"be like cows" swear to god, how high is this mfer?
a lion/tiger/bear might eat me, but that doesnt make eating them less morally reprehensible, let alone if there were extremely unethical industries based around the production of tiger meat that were destroying the planet and shit.
like, woaaah you got me, that carnivore might eat me, therefor the moral dilemma of unnecessarily consuming another living being is totally refuted.
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so is it the unethical nature of industrial-scale meat production, or is it the physical act of eating meat?
you can't humanize/personify non-human animals using this ethical framework and then neglect applying that framework to animals themselves.
should we shame the cow or show them how much more ethical it would've been to not eat the baby chick? not sure if this is an ethical argument about the meat production industry, or just a way to focus on & self-congratulate over individual consumer tastes
i think eating raw celery is gross & probably unethical. Jains, in addition to being lacto-vegetarians, also think eating potatoes & carrots and other tubers/root vegetables is unethical because they have specific religious tenets recognizing a higher "spirit" in those plants
that carnivores & omnivores generally & mammals also need animal protein as a matter of biological necessity should not be lost in these attempts to finger-wag about and atomize the "aesthetics" of specific food group consumption. these notions alone can't be used as some essential nexus of moral worth & focus
yes. you can. an animal is not capable of the ethical reasoning that a human is.
everything else you said is nonsensical drivel based out of that fundamental misrepresentation of reality.
an animal is not capable of ethical reasoning... I don't know if I agree with you, because animals definitely act & are compelled to act in specific ways that promote evolutionary preservation of germline genetic material & dictate animal social behavior. But let's go with what you've said
again, you can't turn an animal into a human or make them as important ethically as humans if the animals themselves aren't capable of being legally/conceptually ever considered human
you're hand-waving here, and trying to turn near-religious dogma& self-certitude into an actual "social cause". we can definitely make laws around ethical treatment & methods of animal agriculture & husbandry, but that doesn't mean looking down on others because they eat meat.
you're not better "ethically" or more "pure" just because you made these choices. we can spend all day talking about consumption in different forms and never arrive at a universally acceptable "moral" trajectory for anyone, because it's dogmatic & problematic to do so
if you're basing this on vague notions of "spiritual" morality rather than human material necessity, then you are fundamentally misrepresenting reality
just shut the fuck up and go away :LIB:
so you can't actually discuss this thing you believe in good faith without lashing out at others?
stop responding then lol
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if a human is, for whatever reason, incapable of forming a proper rational framework of ethics through which to interact with the world in an upstanding and morally acceptable way, would you say they should be carved up into steaks for you to consume?
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Fuckin' watch me
Lmao totally, essentially saying "some animals eat meat, checkmate vegans" :thinkin-lenin:
lmaoooo
But biology tells you what is not what should be. You can't base ethical decisions on science alone you must make judgements outside of science. You need to delve into the philosophy of science alongside science. Science alone is not the basis for a sturdy ideology either.
vegans, who famously advocate not eating only those animals which are themselves strict herbivores, but are perfectly fine with eating animals that eat other animals.
Lol you're so full of shit. If there was some study that found a number of cows having meat in their stomachs, then that was something only specific to the population they dissected, and mostly to do with the fact that cows can't fucking digest meat properly so meat just stays there for very long. This is so dumb and I don't understand why you are doing it.