The video is to prove a point really fast, but, cows actually do only eat proteins. They have three stomachs that they use to feed grass to bacterial colonies, which they then pull into their fourth stomach to eat, with any of the grass that's left un-eaten by the bacteria being shit straight out without being processed any further. They don't eat the grass, the grass is there to feed what they do eat, which is supplemented by eating any large animal small enough to fit in their mouth. I read a study once that almost all cows when dissected had at least 1 animal in their digestive system at a time.

The notion that cows are good peaceful harmless herbivores who eat nothing but grass is nonsense. Here's a video of a cow eating the corpse of a donkey. Of note: there's grass right next to the body. And it isn't just a result of cows being fucked up by human domestication, wild deer (who you cannot blame on humans malnourishing it or contaminating its feed or whatever) do it too.

constructing an elaborate worldview out of a kindergarten level understanding of biology and then getting extremely smug about it annoys me relentlessly. Cows would eat you if they had the chance

    • KrasMazovThought [comrade/them]
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      3 years ago

      Oh I've always known this. But is it impossible for you to stop? You also have a pathological need to have the last word?

        • KrasMazovThought [comrade/them]
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          3 years ago

          You don't have a pathological need to have the last word?

          So eventually we'll hit a point where I will be the last one to reply, I wonder when that will be 😂

                • KrasMazovThought [comrade/them]
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                  3 years ago

                  You seemingly can't stop replying, what is your reason for replying other than a need to have the last word?

                    • KrasMazovThought [comrade/them]
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                      3 years ago

                      People, when they do things, have motivations, goals, drives or likes or dislikes or preferences that propel their behaviour.

                      Rather than doing a crossword, or watching television, you're on Chapo on a long thread nobody is going to read but you (I'm also reading it, obviously).

                      I've outlined my motivation here, by an obsessive dint I typically endeavor to say the last thing. What's motivating your desire to reply?

                      • volkvulture [none/use name]
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                        3 years ago

                        That's your motivation, I'm just responding to notifications lol

                        Again, you don't have to project your own personality foibles onto others. This isn't a pissing contest

                        • KrasMazovThought [comrade/them]
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                          You can actually clear the notification by clicking it. Which is a lot less work than going into the text and thinking of what the text says and your own response to what the text says.

                          Especially because since as I've already said, I'm motivated by the obsessive's need to give summation. If you stopped replying, I would have had the last word, and not keep replying. This would result in no more notifications. Instead, you're choosing to continue the conversation, and generate more notifications. Something keeps bringing you back. What is it?

                            • KrasMazovThought [comrade/them]
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                              3 years ago

                              So it's not any work to respond and you don't actually care about ending the notifications, but you can't announce what reason you have for replying, feigning ignorance. If you can't think of any answer to the question "why do you keep replying," I'd probably swing back around to guessing it actually was to have the last word.

                                • KrasMazovThought [comrade/them]
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                                  3 years ago

                                  Yeah, and I just showed you how to end the notifications. Do you mean to say you keep replying because you're so conditioned by the bell and purple icon that you can't help yourself from replying?

                                  • volkvulture [none/use name]
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                                    3 years ago

                                    I don't care about your tips and pointers though, and I will respond to notifications when they are addressing me

                                    weird how you think you can go online and tell other people what to do lol

                                    • KrasMazovThought [comrade/them]
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                                      3 years ago

                                      So it actually is the case that you are so conditioned by a bell and purple icon that you are compelled to reply, the purple icon and bell directing your behaviour? And you can't stop as long as you see the purple icon?

                                      • volkvulture [none/use name]
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                                        3 years ago

                                        No, you're addressing me directly. I respond when people ask me questions

                                        Are you really going to be this brainless of a troll?

                                        • KrasMazovThought [comrade/them]
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                                          3 years ago

                                          So even if you had no interest in a conversation, you would reply to every question asked of you by anyone, ever?

                                          • volkvulture [none/use name]
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                                            3 years ago

                                            I'm definitely not going to try feebly to diagnose strangers on ChaCha lol. I know you're fascinated with me, but the feeling isn't mutual I can assure you

                                            • KrasMazovThought [comrade/them]
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                                              3 years ago

                                              So you will reply to any question directed at you even if you're not interested in having a conversation? What's the fondest memory you have of your mother?

                                                        • KrasMazovThought [comrade/them]
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                                                          3 years ago

                                                          It's almost astonishing, despite the fact that you stated you felt a need to reply to any question directed at you, you're actually uninterested in answering the questions (if you lean into "urrrr these are my real anzwers" lol okay buddy sure).

                                                          So it's also not the exchange of information from a question and answer that's prompting your continued engagement. At this point, I'm trying to imagine your motivation for replying if it isn't to have the last word.

                                                          You're so conditioned by a question mark in your direction that you feel compelled to reply, without actually answering the question, but you have to make it known you've seen the question?

                                                          • volkvulture [none/use name]
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                                                            3 years ago

                                                            I responded to the questions lol... but I am not going to reveal all this personal information to you just because you feel the need to act infantile & obsessive online. Again, you are the one who is dragging this exchange into the petty & the personal.

                                                            It definitely is the notifications that prompt me. You're just acting silly here

                                                            I respond to notifications... sorry you're unable to allow others what you so desperately need for yourself

                                                            • KrasMazovThought [comrade/them]
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                                                              It definitely is the notifications that prompt me. You’re just acting silly here

                                                              Right, but you could end them. After you've clicked the bell notifying you of the reply and read this, congratulations, stop here, no more notifications.

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                                                              Still here, huh? So you have a (apparently) non-pathological need to reply to everything directed at you, despite not wanting to engage. I obviously remain intent on closing the conversation.

                                                              In lieu of wasting airspace between your (completely normal) compulsion to reply to everything with anything even if you don't enjoy it, and my insistence on attempting to have the last say, this will serve as a study group for the first volume of Marx's Capital, for just the two of us. I'll present you with a bit of Marx from next on out, and you give your interpretation. Or if you don't want to interpret Marx, your opposition. If it's just the need to reply you have to fulfill, you'll be able to do that too. I look forward to our continued correspondence.

                                                              • volkvulture [none/use name]
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                                                                3 years ago

                                                                You're the one still sending me notifications. Not really all that big of a deal for me to respond when messages are sent me way

                                                                You've already mentioned that you have a pathological compulsion, so that's your kink.

                                                                If your messages are cogent & not petty or quibbling then I will respond in kind.

                                                                • KrasMazovThought [comrade/them]
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                                                                  3 years ago

                                                                  "The wealth of those societies in which the capitalist mode of production prevails, presents itself as “an immense accumulation of commodities,”[1] its unit being a single commodity. Our investigation must therefore begin with the analysis of a commodity."

                                                                  • volkvulture [none/use name]
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                                                                    3 years ago

                                                                    Yes, the commodity contains within it certain quantities of crystallized labor time & therefore alienated human potential & human striving. The material relations between people become social relations between things

                                                                    • KrasMazovThought [comrade/them]
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                                                                      3 years ago

                                                                      Honestly this is going to be a blast, I haven't read Capital in... 11 years now, jeez, and just copying and pasting it here is going to give cause to reread it. Hope you like linen.

                                                                      "A commodity is, in the first place, an object outside us, a thing that by its properties satisfies human wants of some sort or another. The nature of such wants, whether, for instance, they spring from the stomach or from fancy, makes no difference.[2] Neither are we here concerned to know how the object satisfies these wants, whether directly as means of subsistence, or indirectly as means of production."

                                                                      • volkvulture [none/use name]
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                                                                        3 years ago

                                                                        Yes, "socially necessary labor" doesn't distinguish in the particulars between human needs and human wants... they're all wants and these wants are almost never satiated. Thus the compulsion of capitalist production to socially reproduce that mode every day & every pay period & every generation

                                                                        • KrasMazovThought [comrade/them]
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                                                                          3 years ago

                                                                          "Every useful thing, as iron, paper, &c., may be looked at from the two points of view of quality and quantity. It is an assemblage of many properties, and may therefore be of use in various ways. To discover the various uses of things is the work of history.[3] So also is the establishment of socially-recognized standards of measure for the quantities of these useful objects. The diversity of these measures has its origin partly in the diverse nature of the objects to be measured, partly in convention."