Cishet debatebro white dude obv.
He doesn't care about the indigenous people affected or the climate impact. He also thinks that the Canadian government should not abide by any of the treaties
:agony-limitless: :agony-limitless: :agony-limitless:
How do i deal with this shit?
Sounds like a stupidpol class reductionist asshole.
Is that what you’re dealing with basically?
For socialists, those people are always so cold hearted
He tell me I am disconnected from the working class for opposing it and that real class analysis would make people support it.
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Tell him he's disconnected from the working class if he doesn't care about the climate - when climate change consequences become bad enough and we can't grow food anymore, it's sure as fuck not the rich that'll die first, they already have their bunkers.
Tell him he’s cold hearted and he’s wrong for not being opposed to all axis of oppression . Class reductionism is dated and past due theory.
even "class reductionist" leftists (such as they are) don't blindly support ecological devastation because the neoliberals said it would "create jobs."
stupidpol class reductionist asshole
Engels: " Will Bakunin accuse the Americans of a "war of conquest", which, although it deals with a severe blow to his theory based on "justice and humanity", was nevertheless waged wholly and solely in the interest of civilization? Or is it perhaps unfortunate that splendid California has been taken away from the lazy Mexicans, who could not do anything with it? That the energetic Yankees by rapid exploitation of the California gold mines will increase the means of circulation, in a few years will concentrate a dense population and extensive trade at the most suitable places on the coast of the Pacific Ocean, create large cities, open up communications by steamship, construct a railway from New York to San Francisco, for the first time really open the Pacific Ocean to civilization, and for the third time in history give the world trade a new direction? The "independence" of a few Spanish Californians and Texans may suffer because of it, in someplaces "justice" and other moral principles may be violated; but what does that matter to such facts of world-historic significance?"
Does he also think "child murderer" is a valid job and the government should invest in the expansion of the child murder industry. Because it's pretty much the same thing
That's extra :agony-limitless: because pipelines don't even create jobs. But yeah, this is a very worrying perspective because these pipelines are bad even if they did "create" jobs.
absent any real mass politics, people can and do claim any label they want based on a vague affinity for some cultural symbols over others. why does he consider himself a leftist? what are his actual principles? you can probably give him plenty of reasons why you think that's absurd, but what reasons would actually apply to where he is in his thinking? if he's your friend and he's a debatebro (like, he actually values argumentation), then that's an opportunity to have a good-faith dialogue about what you each believe and why, as long as you can keep your blood pressure down and not snap and call him a petit bourgeois social fascist white cis privileged gay bitch (even if he is)
how do i deal with this shit?
:gui: :side-eye-1: :side-eye-2:
edit: i mean, i gues :gulag: instead, but gdi it is 2021 and this mfer wants more pipelines
this is what class reductionism and a lack of international perspective does to a mf. same people that support the military-industrial complex
When socialists say "socialism or barbarism!" it's because they consider themselves part of the Roman empire vs indigenous barbarians. That's literally what historical progress means to these dorks
Many indigenous people are working class, in fact a very high percent are.
Ask your friend why he doesn't care about the working class.
Investment in renewable energy, and public transit will also create jobs and help the working class.
