...we're gonna have to re-evaluate old concepts of free speech and democracy.

Everyone's on anti depressants/sleepers/speed, the chuds are blasting testosterone out their ears until they stroke, weed is everywhere and as potent as heroin.

Add the perfect dopamine delivery system, a political internet economy modeled on the addictive technology of vegas slot machines.

It's gonna have an effect on the national psyche.

Is it a partial explanation for Q?

Shout out to the divorced, biker, small business tyrant, dad...caught with test injectables and thc edibles, and guns, after the Capitol. Just the only man for the moment.

Show Image

edit: gotta step away for now. will come back to this. Feels like this post was misunderstood, or I just didn't make enough sense. Hope it won't make things awkward when i slide into selected PMs asking for a plug 😀

  • late90smullbowl [they/them]
    hexagon
    ·
    4 years ago

    Don't think I mentioned addiction once comrade.

    I was suggesting a combination of many factors, including widespread use of modern parmaceuticals, as a partial expanation for Qanon. The culture and exceptionalism are absolutely also factors.

    • Lee [any,they/them]
      ·
      4 years ago

      Don't make exceptions. Widespread pharmaceutical use is addiction, it's just legal addiction. This is why the opiod crisis exists.

      And again, none of those things are limited to the alt right/Q anon. In fact, a lot of people cite their personal struggles with mental and physical illness/addiction as to why they're even leftist in the first place.

      • late90smullbowl [they/them]
        hexagon
        ·
        4 years ago

        Don’t make exceptions.

        I was referring to american exceptionalism, which you referenced.

        Of course these things are not limited to the right. I'm suggesting that Qanon etc is the way that they manifest on the right.

        • Lee [any,they/them]
          ·
          4 years ago

          No you weren't. You were implying there was a difference between pharmaceutical overuse and addiction and I said you were making exceptions. They are the same thing.

          • late90smullbowl [they/them]
            hexagon
            ·
            4 years ago

            You said "What’s special about America is it’s culture. Particularly exceptionalism."

            I said "The culture and exceptionalism are absolutely also factors."

            Leaving you here unless you got something constructive.

            • Lee [any,they/them]
              ·
              4 years ago

              Why is it so hard for you to admit you didn't know shit when you wrote this? You gotta be either a chud or a bit.

              • late90smullbowl [they/them]
                hexagon
                ·
                4 years ago

                wtf are you talking about? fwiw not a chud and not a bit.

                From my point of view people have been babies about this, unable to consider the wider point, taking every mention of weed and anti depressants (in particular) as a personal attack. Shit, I fucking love weed and people were saying I'm afraid of drugs or something. megalol.

                I'm surprised tbh. The thread got removed because people weren't considering the point, getting offended. The OP was a bit dirtbag in tone, granted, but I quickly replied politely to every post in good faith.

                I'm not gonna state the central thesis again, I posted it over and over. With respect, have you read all my posts? I know theres a lot. I cannot understand how people cannot consider the widespread modern use of strong psychoactives in poly drug scenarios, on the daily, as being a possible factor in the rise of Qanon. I asked someone connected tangentially to psychiatry and they didn't dispute the central point, leaving aside the re evaluating democracy part.

                30 people upvoted it before it was removed, fwiw.

                • Lee [any,they/them]
                  ·
                  4 years ago

                  If you don't see how blaming testosterone/addiction/mental illness is fucking toxic chud behaviour after a hundred comments on your post you never will. Plenty of comments pointed out the complete lack of cogency in the trash you've been spewing.

                  Also what the fuck is this all this anti T shit are you a transphobe too? Toxic masculinity and the entitlement that comes with it is why qanons are shit. Entitlement like the kind you're showing by thinking you know more about the effects of these things on society when you've clearly never read any studies. You just threw shit at the wall and hoped it stuck.

                  • late90smullbowl [they/them]
                    hexagon
                    ·
                    edit-2
                    4 years ago

                    You are scrabbling.

                    Yet again, I never mentioned addiction or mental illness.

                    The issue with testosterone isn't trans people achieving balance in their lives. Fuck off with the accusation of transphobia.

                    The issue is with chuds loving it, because it makes them more chudly, more masculine as they see it, for longer in their lives.

                    Normally a chud would be naturally toxically masculine between the age of 20 and 40, with normal test levels declining after 40ish. Now they can intensify that chudliness with test, and keep it going until they die with artificially high test levels. It's a simple fucking concept if you understand the behavioural effects of test.