...we're gonna have to re-evaluate old concepts of free speech and democracy.

Everyone's on anti depressants/sleepers/speed, the chuds are blasting testosterone out their ears until they stroke, weed is everywhere and as potent as heroin.

Add the perfect dopamine delivery system, a political internet economy modeled on the addictive technology of vegas slot machines.

It's gonna have an effect on the national psyche.

Is it a partial explanation for Q?

Shout out to the divorced, biker, small business tyrant, dad...caught with test injectables and thc edibles, and guns, after the Capitol. Just the only man for the moment.

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edit: gotta step away for now. will come back to this. Feels like this post was misunderstood, or I just didn't make enough sense. Hope it won't make things awkward when i slide into selected PMs asking for a plug 😀

  • late90smullbowl [they/them]
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    4 years ago

    Feels like quite a disingenous point. Of course Babbit wasn't on test, and likely not on illegal drugs.

    Drugs are not a contributing factor for why QAnon believers are compelled to believe & act on these things.

    It is undeniable that psychoactive drugs, used daily in poly drug scenarios, will have adverse behavioural effects on a small minority of people. A small minority of 70 million Trump voters is a lot of people. This modern phenomenon is now extremely common. This could be one factor in the rapid rise of Qanon.

    QAnon wasn’t around 5 years ago, it wasn’t formulated until 2017.

    I'm well aware. The the online radicalization began before Q imo.

    Saying that your personal anecdotal experience with people close to you is applicable to the entire phenomenon or to objective reality is just subjective bias & group attribution error on your part.

    Yet you bring up Babbit.

    • volkvulture [none/use name]
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      4 years ago

      To try and universalize Meredith's personal proclivities and say it is representative or an explanation for the movement generally is a similarly disingenuous point, so I am glad you noticed that point.

      It is not undeniable that psychoactive drugs are a significant underlying explanation for the fertility & immense growth of QAnon mythos. Drug use is not a significant factor in QAnon's rise.

      I brought up Babbitt because you brought up Meredith trying to say he is representative of the entire movement & its motivations. Neither of these people's personal drug habits are representative or sufficient explanations of the entire movement & its motivations.

      • late90smullbowl [they/them]
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        I was using Meredith as an amusing example of a wider modern phenomenon. All my points have been extremely broad, you have been attempting to narrow the discussion.

        It is not undeniable that psychoactive drugs are a significant underlying explanation for the fertility & immense growth of QAnon mythos. Drug use is not a significant factor in QAnon’s rise.

        That's not what I said, and you're making an assertion.

        Again, it is undeniable that psychoactive drugs, used daily in poly drug scenarios, will have adverse behavioural effects on a small minority of people. A small minority of 70 million Trump voters is a lot of people. This modern phenomenon (the poly drug scenario) is now extremely common. This could be one factor in the rapid rise of Qanon.

        This discussion has reached a productive end imo, I won't be replying unless you come up with something new.

        • volkvulture [none/use name]
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          4 years ago

          This is a narrow discussion about QAnon and its causes, it's not about general rates of drug use, or poly drug use, or trying to stigmatize drug users as right-wingers & conspiracy loons. Polydrug use and whether it has behavior effects on a small minority is not the cause of QAnon, or a significant factor in the least

          Plenty of apolitical & moderate & left wing people are poly drug users and want nothing to do with QAnon. The two are not correlated.

          Polydrug use is also not a significant explanation for the "small minority" of Trump voters who showed up at the capitol based on QAnon-related sensationalism, many of whom do not engage in such behavior.

          You haven't come up with anything new, you keep doubling down on this personal assumption you're making. Drug use and polydrug use are not even contributing factors or partial explanations for the rabid QAnon conspiracy explosion, you're just trying to blame QAnon on polydrug use that you appear to have a personal aversion to.