love how the Canadian parliament inadvertently exposed just how far into fascism neo-liberals are.
just a few days ago, if you wanted to find out how willing to defend Nazis liberals were, you'd have to do a lil searching. Now it's right in front of us, all the time, without stop.
"He's a hero, he fought against Russia"
"He's just a little old man, he can't be a Nazi!"
"So what if he was a Nazi? Communism was worse than anything the Nazis did"
"How dare you call me a Nazi for defending Nazis?! I'm not a Nazi, I just hate Russia"
literally their evolution through this.
What really really gets me is when the Molotov-Ribbentrop Pact is brought up, used to discredit and impart vileness on to the Soviet Union due to their association with Nazis (ignoring context, and other countries who made similar pacts earlier) and then the source of the awfulness, self-identifying (i.e. unambiguous) Nazis are pacified of negativity!
What? How do you use something to say something else is bad, then say that the something initially was actually not that bad! How does it not follow that the initial comparison and association at the very least be brought into question?
"Doublethink"
Orwell was a shitty socialist, but he was completely on point with the terms he coined to describe thought manipulation and the effects of propaganda.
its because he worked hand in hand with the people doing this shit lol
It's like Michael Hudson wrote his book about imperialism to show how bad it was and they used it as an instruction manual except Orwell's wasn't an accident.
(ignoring context, and other countries who made similar pacts earlier)
One of those they like to ignore is how British PM Neville Chamberlain negotiated to let Nazi Germany annex the Sudetenland, which happened like six months before the Molotov-Ribbentrop Pact.
One of those they like to ignore is how British PM Neville Chamberlain negotiated to let Nazi Germany annex the Sudetenland
Negotiated to let Nazi Germany and Poland annex parts of Czechoslovakia.
Ah yeah, thanks, I don't actually know the details of the other pacts.
July 1933: Four Powers Pact
January 1934: Polish–German Declaration
June 1935: Anglo–German Naval Agreement
November 1936: Anti‐Comintern Pact
December 1938: Franco‐German Declaration
March 22, 1939: Memel treaty
March 24, 1939: German–Romanian Economic Treaty
May 22, 1939: Pact of Steel
May 31, 1939: Danish–German Nonaggression Pact
June 1939: Estonian–German and Latvian–German Nonaggression Pacts
September 1940: Tripartite Pact
June 1941: Treaty of Friendship between Germany and Turkey
The unfortunate part about the Molotov-Ribbentrop pact being used by libs as a defence, is whenever it’s debunked the Libs come back full force talking about the dual-invasion of Poland, claiming the Soviets and Nazis worked together to destroy Poland.
I like to bring up that the Soviets didn't invade Poland, they liberated the Polish-occupied parts of Ukraine, Belarus, and Lithuania.
I would like to point them that these baltics , the whole poland, finland were under Russian empire before WW1 . Lenin came and signed the Brest treaty which was sort of humiliation for Russia (even Trotsky was against it ). Finland was given independence , balts became vassals of Germany and the curzon line drawn after Poland was given independence was violated by Poland. Now it seems Red Army in 1920 violated some protocol to free Poland ,stalin negated this step (it was bolshevik poles who wanted a Bolshevik Poland it seems idk). In that war Poland took huge chunk of territory which is now western ukraine. In molotov pact, Stalin reversed this by gifting some fuel to hitler that's it and avoided a severe clash in 1939 after getting rejected by UK and French. So summing it up balts were not independent they were vassals of Germany . Stalin avoided a direct confrontation and 3rd and its a lie from balts and polish fascists governments that Hitler and Stalin both started WW2. That's a enormous lie.
How the fuck can they read accounts of SS Galicia killing tens of thousands of civilians, and burning men, women and children alive and then be like "Thank you for your service".
They seem to be going with "He joined them AFTER they did those things, so it's totally cool". Like after literally burning people alive they just gave away milk and cookies for the rest of their military duty.
Personally I think that's even worse. It implies that SS Galicia had a reputation for brutal mass murder by that point and this dude decided to join up with them. It's like wanting to enlist in the US Army right after you find out about My Lai.
Him voluntering after crimes is also a lie, SS Galizien was founded in 1943 and comitted crimes against humanity up till the very end of war.
I figured that was probably the case, too. I don't really understand how people could think a Nazi unit would suddenly stop doing Nazi stuff during the war. Anything to pretend anti-communists are heroes, I guess.
Stay-behind Ukrainian Nazi cells kept committing crimes against humanity for years after the war ended, they murdered tens of thousands of civilians in Ukraine all the way up to the early 1950s when they were finally crushed by the Soviet government.
They’re trying to use the age defence since he was around 16-18 when he joined.
I mean, I was stupid at 16-18, but I'm pretty sure doing anything like that would have given me a mental breakdown or worse.
In a blog he explained those were the best years of his life so, you know…
I genuinely can't comprehend how a person could think such a thing. Even if I killed 1000 Nazis, I'd still feel a weight on my conscience from killing so many people. I can't understand the mind of men who can kill civilians without an ounce of guilt or remorse.
Because they like it. They just don't like being branded as a bad guy so they don't show their internal thoughts unless they find it is socially acceptable, like in the Canadian parliament or Ukraine.
Yh i'm increasingly gettin the suspicion that for some of these liberals the war allows them to vicariously relive their glory days in age of empires or total war where they get to massacre hordes of non-europeans.
Like when white racists will be racist around other white people because they think they'll find it acceptable.
Because Neo-liberalism only takes place here and now. There is no long term, there is no past.
Ideology or reasons are a distance second to “maintain whatever the status quo is in my mind”
Because apparently the Soviets were worse. It’s bullshit but that’s their line of thinking.
9 salty libs and counting who don't like to have their inner contradictions revealed.
I'm too lazy and tired right now, but somebody should do one of those Spongebob diaper scene memes but with Ukraine Nazis. It writes itself.
Caitlin Johnstone comes through with yet another dub (I have stopped counting how many at this point🔥)
I am still not convinced she is not Chen Weihua's alter ego, they're the only two to consistently score so many W's on that dumpster fire of a platform.
Chen is pretty neutral on Russia - US issue. Cato drops bombshell every time 🤣
I'm calling it there is some democrat who is going to resolve their contradictions by deciding that Trump is Jewish
