• TheGamingLuddite [none/use name]
      ·
      a year ago

      It's pointless to try to quantify the exact proportion of the population of Ukraine sympathetic to nazism. It's possible the majority of people in Ukraine are anti-nazi and would vote for one of the banned left wing parties if allowed.

      The problem is that the oligarchs and politicians in charge of Ukraine, as well as western journalists and politicians supporting them, are okay with depicting Ukrainian soldiers wearing sonnenrads, swastikas, dirlewanger patches, and calling Stepan Bandera a hero. There's something deeply, deeply wrong with your political project if this kind of thing happens regularly, and these nazi photo ops have been a weekly occurrence.

      There's something viscerally horrifying about seeing people with billions of dollars in weaponry brandishing the same nazi iconography as the Buffalo Shooter.

        • renata
          ·
          edit-2
          a year ago

          deleted by creator

    • Awoo [she/her]
      ·
      edit-2
      a year ago

      What percentage of Ukraine would you say are Nazis?

      If you want to do it numerically I can offer you a method: https://ratinggroup.ua/en/research/ukraine/desyatyy_obschenacionalnyy_opros_ideologicheskie_markery_voyny_27_aprelya_2022.html

      In particular, the attitudes that gradually improved are the ones towards Ivan Mazepa (44% in 2012 and 76% in 2022), Simon Petliura (26% in 2012 and 49% in 2022) and Stepan Bandera (22% in 2012 and 74% in 2022). It is important that the positive attitude towards the ideologue of Ukrainian nationalism prevails today in the south-eastern regions of Ukraine, and among those who speak only Russian in everyday life.

      The largest polling group in Ukraine found that views to Stepan Bandera were 22% positive in 2012, versus 74% positive in 2022. If you're not quite sure why it's an issue that 74% of society now views the founder of the OUN-B who took part in the holocaust and were viewed by even the nazi SS as "too extreme" then I don't know what to tell you.

      This kind of shift has occurred because since the Maidan coup of 2014, there have been fascists in power. Maybe not complete and total power but enough power to shove Ukraine (and its population) in the fascist direction. You don't move from 22% of the population viewing the ukrainian equivalent of Hitler as positive to 74% of the population viewing him as positive without that being a systemic push by the state.