• SacredExcrement [any, comrade/them]
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      1 year ago

      Hey, he was also chancellor of the University of Alberta agony-limitless

      Also

      Membership in the Order of Canada is only effective during the honoree’s lifetime, so Savaryn, who died in 2017, cannot have his award rescinded.

      “The Constitution of the Order of Canada terminates an individual’s membership to the Order upon their death and does not allow to retroactively revoke appointments of deceased persons,” the Governor General’s office said in the statement. “The Chancellery is committed to working with Canadians to ensure our honours system is reflective of Canadian values."

      “Historical appointments to the Order of Canada reflect a specific moment in time and would have been based on limited information sources available at that time.”

      Suck my entire ass

    • CombatLiberalism [he/him]
      hexagon
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      1 year ago

      If this has been made a week ago I would have gotten so much mileage out of it

  • red_stapler [he/him]
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    1 year ago

    This is going to be like those memes about “days since classified documents leaked on the war thunder forums” isn’t it?

    • CombatLiberalism [he/him]
      hexagon
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      1 year ago

      nazi extermination squad members receiving awards and honors? in my settler-colonial project?

      It's more likely than you think. Call your local Anti-Fascist helpline to learn more!

      • IceWallowCum [he/him]
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        1 year ago

        I just checked the Barbara pit Wikipedia page and it's so friggin funny how it makes it seem that the victims were lil smol bean cuddly puppies that were just trying to defend their land from communism.

        Nazism is not mentioned once.

  • edge [he/him]
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    1 year ago

    Is it just me or is an "apology for any distress or pain this may have caused" bullshit couched in leftish language?

    Like, it's basically "I'm sorry you feel that way" but with a feigned concern for the "distress or pain". And it's not at all apologizing for having done it in the first place, just for how people reacted to it.

    I see this shit everywhere in corporate (and I guess government) apologies and it feels so slimy.

    • Self_Sealing_Stem_Bolt [he/him, they/them]
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      1 year ago

      Take a business English class if you wanna have a stroke. It's all like this. I especially liked the good news, bad news, good news format. Cause the good news is only good to the company and the bad news is how they are gonna screw you harder. It's so transparent even the textbook admitted it.

    • Rojo27 [he/him]
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      1 year ago

      And the only reason they are apologizing now is because how this story has blown up. He's been in the Order of Canada since 1987. 36 years knowing full well that he served with the Waffen-SS.

    • Tachanka [comrade/them]
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      1 year ago

      Is it just me or is an "apology for any distress or pain this may have caused" bullshit couched in leftish language?

      it's not just you

    • ProxyTheAwesome [comrade/them]
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      1 year ago

      It’s a non-apology. “Sorry you got offended”

      Why don’t they strip them off all honors, do a retroactive review of the government and purge all ukronazi elements? That would require effort and would weaken support for Ukraine so they will never do that

    • culpritus [any]
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      1 year ago

      https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2xLq6sI4QAQ

      This banderite guy is still around.

      In a wide-ranging interview in the East Village on Tues., Feb. 15, 2022, Walter Zaryckyj (pronounced "Zarisky"), the executive director of the Center for U.S. Ukrainian Relations and a former New York University political science professor, talks at length about Russia's threatened invasion of Ukraine. He discusses the five possible invasion scenarios and also puts the current situation into historical context, including the connection to the forced Ukrainian famine of the 1930s that was perpetrated by Stalin. The most likely scenario that will happen if Putin takes aggressive action, he said, is that Russia will take over breakaway areas in eastern Ukraine. But to try to conquer all of Ukraine, including Kyiv, its capital and most populous city, Russia would need to bring in a much larger occupation force of 500,000 troops, which it is not currently in a position to do, Zaryckyj says. The interview runs 51 minutes. (Video by The Village Sun)

      He was writing for the Atlantic Council in 2015 lmao

      https://www.atlanticcouncil.org/blogs/ukrainealert/putin-isn-t-winging-it/

      more info here from the "Bandera Lobby" substack tracking this stuff

      https://banderalobby.substack.com/p/exposing-the-bandera-lobby-in-the

      more info about OUN-B / OUN-R in US from grayzone: https://thegrayzone.com/2021/04/29/ukrainian-ultranationalist-lobby-biden-russia/

      • Tachanka [comrade/them]
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        1 year ago

        He was writing for the Atlantic Council in 2015

        every day I must resist the urge to become more smuglord towards people who wanted to argue with me about this shit in 2022.

        • culpritus [any]
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          https://thegrayzone.com/2021/04/29/ukrainian-ultranationalist-lobby-biden-russia/

          Demonstrating the power the ultranationalist Ukraine lobby has attained in Biden’s Washington, the White House has withdrawn consideration of esteemed Russia specialist Matthew Rojansky.

          Throughout the Cold War, the UCCA waged war on Kennan’s containment strategy, condemning it as a form of appeasement while advocating a policy of rollback that could have resulted in all-out war.

          “The collapse of Kennanism in this country is a good sign,” Lev Dobriansky, a former president of the UCCA and co-founder of the right-wing Victims of Communism Memorial Foundation, once remarked. Dobriansky was a close ally of Yaroslav Stetsko, a notorious Nazi collaborator who succeeded Bandera as leader of the OUN-B.

          In the 1960s, Dobriansky and other UCCA leaders even lambasted a rival OUN faction that had been backed by the CIA as too soft on communism. Despite its history of extremism, the UCCA has apparently attained considerable influence over the Biden administration, while realists like Rojansky have been effectively blacklisted.

          A March 2021 policy conference in Washington highlighted the growing bond between the Banderite movement and belligerent Beltway foreign policy figures tied to the Democratic Party.

          Called, “Divining the New Administration’s Approach to Ukraine’s Most Pressing Security Issues,” the gathering was co-sponsored by the UCCA and organized by the Center for US-Ukrainian Relations (CUSUR), which is tied to the hip of the Banderite OUN-B.

          Several “experts” from the NATO-funded Atlantic Council participated in the Banderite-run event. They included Anders Åslund, the neoliberal and often clownish economist who participated in the US-organized looting of Russia’s economy during the 1990’s. True to form, Åslund smeared Rojansky as not only an uninformed Putin apologist, but as a potential Russian agent.

          Meanwhile, Atlantic Council senior fellow Melinda Haring warned of “impending disaster and disfunction,” predicting that Rojansky would “clash” with the “very hawkish,” “savvy operator” Victoria Nuland. In other words, he might balance the notoriously neoconservative tendencies of the former Obama State Department advisor who is widely seen as having stage managed the 2014 Maidan coup in Ukraine.

          Haring and her Atlantic Council colleague, former US ambassador to Ukraine John Herbst, sat silently while retired Lieutenant General Ben Hodges, the former commander of the U.S. Army Europe in 2014-18, denied that millions of Russians died in World War II.

          During a previous panel, Atlantic Council senior fellow Daniel Fried also said nothing in response to his co-panelist, the nationalist Ukrainian politician, Hanna Hopko, sharing her goal of balkanizing Russia as Nazi Germany once aspired to do.

          During the CUSUR event, Fried explained why New Cold Warriors like himself could never accept the appointment of someone like Rojansky. On issues related to Ukraine and Russia, Fried said the Biden administration “will not be a return to the Obama administration. It will be a return to the best sides of the Obama administration, without some of the disheartening debates that happened internally.”

          Pointing to anti-Russia hardliners like Nuland and Secretary of State Tony Blinken as the “best sides of the Obama administration,” Fried articulated what has been made crystal clear by the Rojansky controversy. Having taken US-Russia relations to its post-Cold War nadir, the Russia hawks and their Ukrainian nationalist partners will be satisfied by nothing less than total control over Joe Biden’s foreign policy.

    • mechwarrior2 [he/him]
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      1 year ago

      I wonder if there will be any reckoning for Freeland's relationship with these dusty nazis being ideological in addition to familial. Probably asking too much of libs yea

      • Llituro [he/him, they/them]
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        1 year ago

        yeah the lib response has already been to start rehabilitating the necessary ideological commitments of the dusty nazis, they're getting real close to rehabilitating the ideology itself.

    • Tachanka [comrade/them]
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      1 year ago

      Well it's interesting in a way because a mass shooting, as bad as it is, only takes a few minutes to happen. This takes decades to happen. First you have to bring the nazi into your country. Then you have to let them get really old. And then you have to ignore them and let them ferment. And then you have to pickle them in vinegar to preserve them. Finally, when they've reached the proper age, you take them out of your wine cellar and bring them into the Canadian parliament. You declare them to be a vintage 1945 banderite and then pin several medals on their chest for the excellent pickling job you've done.

  • HumanBehaviorByBjork [any, undecided]
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    1 year ago

    honestly even as the lib hawks are rushing to get swastika tattoos, it's probably a good thing that the government is apologizing profusely and saying they'll do something about it.

  • GalaxyBrain [they/them]
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    1 year ago

    Lol, my co-worker's mom got the order of Canada for reasons he won't go into. That family is sus as fuck

  • privatized_sun [none/use name]
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    1 year ago

    Alberta is, of course, a mining and other resource extraction colony. Who better to install as leadership than a settler colonialist finance imperiailst?