also veganism is just socialism for food

  • Dimmer06 [he/him,comrade/them]
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    4 years ago

    Not really, just don't produce meat in the planned economy. Your average person would probably rather eat vegan from a grocery store than raise, slaughter, and butcher animals to eat and double so for dairy. Eggs might be the exception but only in rural areas and a generation raised without them would end the practice. Getting to a point where that is formal policy is a different matter but not impossible, especially when it would be a quick way to reduce greenhouse gas emissions, conserve water, and more efficiently produce food.

    • kronkfresh [none/use name]
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      4 years ago

      Thats a really good point. (I was completely talking out of my ass I have never given this question any thought)

      • Dimmer06 [he/him,comrade/them]
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        4 years ago

        Oh haha. Honestly I don't think most of my fellow vegans and animal-liberationists have thought much about it either.

      • Prinz1989 [he/him]
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        4 years ago

        Yeah it feeds right into the "socialism = no food" propaganda. The idea of public canteens having just ONE meat free day a week was enough for green parties in Europe to drop by like 5-10% in polls.

      • Dimmer06 [he/him,comrade/them]
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        4 years ago

        No it's not petty at all. While I don't think there's that many people would take up arms to defend their right to buy steak (especially if their lives improve on every other front), it's entirely possible that the struggle for vegan socialism will be a twenty, forty, or even sixty year project on top of getting to the socialist state in the first place and it almost certainly won't be for the animals. Alternatively it could arise out of protracted people's war and the breakdown of supply lines making animal products an unobtainable luxury. Surely there are other ways, but I don't know what conditions will produce this change. Like so many features of higher stage communism though, we need socialism before we could even hope to end animal agriculture so that people become educated and conditioned to it just like the withering of the state or the end of the value-form.