Even Obamacare, one of maybe 2 dem “victory” (gross as it is to say that) that Dems got through probably in my lifetime was so thoroughly compromised with the gop it’s arguably a worse situation than had that left it alone, definitely short of what I think any liberal would actually want if they weren’t lying to themselves. Even that has gop fingerprints all over it.
Ah I was iffy on the history, I wasn’t sure if it was that or if it began as a “better” thing but was so thoroughly whittled down it was basically romney’s plan, either way the gop definitely are successful and getting their way politically so it’s funny to see libs cope like they somehow haven’t been lol
former democratic party vice presidential candidate joe lieberman killed single-payer.
if they hadn't pre-capitulated to republicans maybe they could've given up other things for old joe and we could've had single-payer at least but nobody with a D after their name knows shit about negotiating or bullying dipshits who cost you the whitehouse.
Even Obamacare, one of maybe 2 dem “victory” (gross as it is to say that) that Dems got through probably in my lifetime was so thoroughly compromised with the gop it’s arguably a worse situation than had that left it alone, definitely short of what I think any liberal would actually want if they weren’t lying to themselves. Even that has gop fingerprints all over it.
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Ah I was iffy on the history, I wasn’t sure if it was that or if it began as a “better” thing but was so thoroughly whittled down it was basically romney’s plan, either way the gop definitely are successful and getting their way politically so it’s funny to see libs cope like they somehow haven’t been lol
former democratic party vice presidential candidate joe lieberman killed single-payer.
if they hadn't pre-capitulated to republicans maybe they could've given up other things for old joe and we could've had single-payer at least but nobody with a D after their name knows shit about negotiating or bullying dipshits who cost you the whitehouse.