I saw a really funny exchange on this where some lib was like “ummm actually it’s the GOP that can’t govern and don’t pass anything” and someone was like “hey quick check, are abortions illegal in your area” and the liberal was like “oh ok the ONE social victory they’ve had in years…”
Ah yes, what matters aren't insignificant "social victories" like
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10 year old girls not being forced to birth the children of their abusers,
but how world-weary and grown up your party comes off when you kick off another war that costs millions of lifes.
I’m sure it’ll come as no surprise to you that the person reducing abortion rights to social questions with no material effects was a middle aged white man lol
The GOP passed a corporate tax cut on the scale of when Reagan slashed taxes in the 80s. They gave their corporate overlords everything they wanted and the Dems haven’t even suggested that they want to repeal it.
Even Obamacare, one of maybe 2 dem “victory” (gross as it is to say that) that Dems got through probably in my lifetime was so thoroughly compromised with the gop it’s arguably a worse situation than had that left it alone, definitely short of what I think any liberal would actually want if they weren’t lying to themselves. Even that has gop fingerprints all over it.
Ah I was iffy on the history, I wasn’t sure if it was that or if it began as a “better” thing but was so thoroughly whittled down it was basically romney’s plan, either way the gop definitely are successful and getting their way politically so it’s funny to see libs cope like they somehow haven’t been lol
former democratic party vice presidential candidate joe lieberman killed single-payer.
if they hadn't pre-capitulated to republicans maybe they could've given up other things for old joe and we could've had single-payer at least but nobody with a D after their name knows shit about negotiating or bullying dipshits who cost you the whitehouse.
like the bar is so fuckin low that dem voters are conditioned to view shit not getting bad quite as fast as the Republicans would want as a victory for them.
Objectively true though. Manchin and Sinema tank all the Dems plans just for the lulz and no one in the DNC will even say anything bad about them, much less do anything other than shrug and say “oh well”. It’s honestly embarrassing.
It’s by design, if they had a 60 seat majority there would be 6 manchins
I know he's a rotten-brained
but Glenn Greenwald called this back when the public option was cut from Obamacare. The "rotating villain" of the DNC.If you dump enough energy into the qauntum foam you can create a true vacuum that will expand until a Manchin pops out to fill it.
smol bean president can't stop the wall being built and a congressional majority couldn't repeal the funding and obligation.
anyway,
The GOP hate the dems. They literally despise them. The only reason that they work together is because of the dems coming across the isle. The GOP doesn't really think of things like we do in this greater context. They don't see the material reality we do. Their politicians have drunk the kool-aid almost as much as their constituents have.
I remember an episode of citations needed where they were talking about how the republicans view the democrats compromising even when they have all the power. The GOP view it as patronizing. Their whole ideology is strength. It's why their first answer to every problem is drones or nukes, even if they don't go through with it. They don't have a sense of solidarity with the dems. Hillary clinton is satan to them. Obama is stalin, hitler, and mao to them.
Despite the material reality of two similarly capitalist parties who unite to squelch the working class. The Republicans take a capacity for excessive force as a given and anything less as a direct threat to the nation. So the Dems never get brownie points for using brown shirts. Because the republicans literally can't imagine anything left of the dems besides revolutionary communists. And sometimes they view them as exactly that. They're fucking dumb as hell.
When you repeat things because they are politically convenient, but you have no capacity for self reflection, eventually you start to believe it. Some of them understand some parts of reality but they all have major blind spots filled in with delusions of grandeur and sadism. The kissengers are in power no longer. Only the failsons.
^This is astrology for the people who enjoyed debate club in high school. This is your brain on liberalism.
I dont know how to respond to something this vague. But maybe thats the point?
I could explain the material conditions that lead to the phenomena im describing.
Also "everything is rooted in material conditions" doesnt mean that hyper-nationalist, capitalist, prosperity gospel believing people understand reality. They can be dumb and still win because everything is stacked in their favor.
It's mostly a one way duality. Dems bootlick the GOP, GOP identifies itself by performatively hating Dems.
Can confirm, the GOP is full of complete dumbasses who spent all their intelligence points on being politicians.
"We want what's worst for everyone, we're just plain evil, but we pretend to be so with a heavy heart"
Well it kinda did aged bad, but it's because both parties are more like this now.
Yeah the main disagreement is whether they support explicit fascism at home or abroad for now
Also whether to go to war with China or Russia first
Whoa cool picture of the Canadian parliament. How did you get it in black and white?
What kind of wine sipping liberal really thinks the Democrats can govern? Or that their masters love life and themselves in a way we poors can't comprehend?
At first i thought that emoji was like a half cooked turkey behind one of those press conference tables with a bunch of microphones
Me too, I thought it was a big shouldered frothing chud instead of a turkey though.
I still can't unsee it
Good catch, it's funny how everybody assumes he's blue maga and takes offense to the "we can't govern" when it's entirely possible he's maga and takes offense to "we want what's worst for everyone" because he thinks climate change is a Jewish hoax
Also, I can't name the person in the pfp for fear of being banned. That also could be a breadcrumb.
Even though 4chan would be more than enthusiastic to tell you "Yes, we are just plain evil and we want what's worse for everyone solely because we think it's funny. We just cynically use the Bible so we can steal your rightful high horse."
It took me a second as well as rereading the title to realize the author meant the dem panel was inaccurate.
In the UK you could replace both top and bottom with Conservative Party Conference.
Conservative Party Conference Inside: "WE WANT WHATS WORSE FOR EVERYONE" "WE CANT GOVERN!"
Conservative Party Conference Inside: "WE HATE LIFE AND OURSELVES" "WERE JUST PLAIN EVIL"
Meanwhile the Labour conference is just burning an effigy of Jeremy Corbyn while screeching about a second referendum.
Nah, man that Michael Jackson episode aged like 50 year old milk
DNC governs exactly how they want to, which is just like the Republicans. They pretend to fail at doing things while cashing giant checks from lobbyists, who also continue to bankroll their reelection campaigns.
Righties quick to harp about that can't govern banner but ignore how they kicked the speaker out then RAN LIKE HELL
It's more effective to ask how many Supreme Court seats they got in a single Trump term. The answer is the same but it all happened in a span of about 4 years, not 10.
Also ask how it happened. They prioritized ideology over "norms" and "rule of law". They controlled the Senate when Scalia died and just said "nah, we're not gonna let Obama get this one". Then with Trump in office one of their oldest knew it was time to retire (unlike a certain other Justice) then they
until that certain other Justice died in office and snagged that 3rd appointment a month before the election, contrary to their reasoning for blocking Obama, swinging the balance of the court even more in their favor.Because no "norm" or "precedent" matters, even one you made up. When you have the power to do something to further your ideology, you do it. Regardless of the minority party's complaints. If the law doesn't stop you from doing it, you do it. If it does stop you, you find a workaround.
Democrats refuse to operate that way, which is why they can't govern. e.g. Biden could easily cancel all student loan debt regardless of what the Supreme Court says, because the Supreme Court has no way to actually prevent him from doing it. Worst case the R House impeaches him for defying the Supreme Court and the D Senate just acquits, so basically nothing but theater.
Instead they tried the bare minimum and gave it up at the first speed bump.
They actually don't want to govern and just use that as an excuse
Pretending you don't have the power to make a decision is... still you, making a decision. Biden is still governing. He is still responsible for the unbelievably terrible job he is doing no matter how loudly he keeps saying his hands are tied.
Bush II set the precedent for presidential powers being calvinball. Nobody is going to stop Biden (or will stop Trump after he gets elected again) from doing anything. Haven't you noticed Trump has yet to face a single actual material consequence from absolutely anything at all? Do you think that's an accident? An oversight?
That is a semantic difference. I think we basically agree just that we phrase it differently
Who cares? Executive order packing the court would be found to be constitutional in a 10-9 decision
if the democrats could govern that might be a thing that could happen, but
Abortion has been effectively illegal in many parts of this country for years. Liberals didn't give a rat's ass until it affected their blind worship of their "problematic favs" because they can't reconcile reality with their belief system.
Everything I found confusing or inexplicable about American political theater cleared up immediately after learning the immortal science
