I genuinely went to read this in good faith since it's The Intercept (I know it's not great, but it's not CNN) but decided to do a quick text search for Zenz just to make sure. And of course, the whole fucking thing is full of Zenz.

This is just ridiculous at this point. I really don't want to be a genocide-denier if there is actually one happening, but for fuck's sake this is just ridiculous, LET ME SEE ONE REPORT ON THIS WITHOUT ZENZ ALL OVER IT.

  • TheOldRazzleDazzle [he/him]
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    3 years ago

    2-3 years in detention and intentionally reducing practice of Islam as a key goal is not allowing people to practice their culture.

    It is a shitty situation that didn't start with the CCP--it starts with the Qing genociding an entire Buddhist ethnic group and then promoting Han settler colonialism in the area ~250 years ago--but CCP has a bad track record of figuring out how to productively engage with non-assimilated ethnic minorities, and this is a continuation of that.

      • space_comrade [he/him]
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        3 years ago

        This one was always weird to me, what's the big deal regarding the name? Why is it a big deal for either side how they refer to the party?

        Not trolling just geniunely curious since I've seen people react like you did occasionally.

          • TheOldRazzleDazzle [he/him]
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            3 years ago

            Meh, 中国共产党 is literally Chinese Communist Party. If you want to be really precise you can start the movement to call them the GCD, short for Gongchangdong, or Communist Party :xi-lib-tears:

              • TheOldRazzleDazzle [he/him]
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                3 years ago

                Fair enough. My area is literature before WWII, so I've probably spent more time worrying about whether to call the nationalist party GMD to be accurate or KMT to be in sync with historical nomenclature than all the times I've typed CPC or CCP combined.

    • grisbajskulor [he/him]
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      3 years ago

      I imagine it's also somewhat analogous to Cuba, where despite the economic revolution, remnants of anti-black racism is still prevalent. Much better than before, of course, but still there. (As I understand it)

      • TheOldRazzleDazzle [he/him]
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        3 years ago

        China is a technocratic country that leads the world on scientific innovation. Which is great, but it leads to a lot of trickle down soft (or with the Uyghurs, often kind of blatant) bigotry towards disenfranchised minorities who seem "backward," religiously "superstitious," or otherwise unassimilated into modern society.

        Would you say the situation in Cuba a bit like Brazil, where there's not exactly racism the way there is in the US, but still lots of colorism and classism tied to white European privilege?

        • grisbajskulor [he/him]
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          3 years ago

          Just to be clear, I am completely uninformed on this point. I'm pretty much just repeating some bits of info I heard on Revleft radio.

          My general sense is that racism is not stamped out by socialism. It is a cultural issue that is very distinct from economic issues (and to claim otherwise IMO would be one of the few times 'class reductionist' actually makes sense). That said, socialism is its best antidote. Racism is supported by capitalism, black people in America are by and large still suffering from generational cyclical poverty and discrimination by society & the state, which we materialists understand is exactly what leads to crime. When class lines are blurred or wiped out completely I believe racism will slowly die out or diminish. That general idea is all I could really apply to Brazil.