I don't think indigenous requires displacement, and if it does, that actually sort of helps the settler argument, because their ancestors include in large part Palestinian Jews displaced well over a thousand years ago.
What matters is that Palestinians and their ancestral groups have always been there, since before recorded history, and they are being forced from their homes. That it's being done by a group of their cousins who were forced off in the more distant past doesn't justify it in any way.
I'm not trying to make any kind of Zionism-related argument here. My question was more of an oblique way of saying that it's setting off my :hitler-detector: without being accusational. Because the particular phrasing of the question is also reminiscent of the one regularly directed at anyone assumed to be an immigrant: "But where are you really from?"
This occupying line of thinking also heads off in the direction of "No reparations; that was centuries ago", "Australia is a white country now", and even "it's been Israel for 75 years". And talk that moves from "the systemic mistreatment of Palestinians is apartheid" to "Jews don't really belong here" is a degradation into antisemitism, so careful phrasing matters.
Since this is a sensitive topic, I want to make it clear that I'm not interpreting either of your comments that way, just trying to clarify my original response.
Define "indigenous" in the context of historically displaced people.
I don't think indigenous requires displacement, and if it does, that actually sort of helps the settler argument, because their ancestors include in large part Palestinian Jews displaced well over a thousand years ago.
What matters is that Palestinians and their ancestral groups have always been there, since before recorded history, and they are being forced from their homes. That it's being done by a group of their cousins who were forced off in the more distant past doesn't justify it in any way.
I'm not trying to make any kind of Zionism-related argument here. My question was more of an oblique way of saying that it's setting off my :hitler-detector: without being accusational. Because the particular phrasing of the question is also reminiscent of the one regularly directed at anyone assumed to be an immigrant: "But where are you really from?"
This occupying line of thinking also heads off in the direction of "No reparations; that was centuries ago", "Australia is a white country now", and even "it's been Israel for 75 years". And talk that moves from "the systemic mistreatment of Palestinians is apartheid" to "Jews don't really belong here" is a degradation into antisemitism, so careful phrasing matters.
Since this is a sensitive topic, I want to make it clear that I'm not interpreting either of your comments that way, just trying to clarify my original response.