If you wanna read my response:
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If you wanna read my response:
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Is Putin a shitbag? Yes, he is.
Is Navalny a better option? Most likely no, he's just pro-US.
Should we simp for any of them? No, wtf.
That's it.
I think Navalny would be a whole lot worse, if he is truly western-aligned then he might stop supporting China, Iran, Syria, Venezuela, etc. like Putin does. Obv, both are capitalist bastards and suck
i'm more concerned with putin's internal politics, which are absolute crap
i would much rather choose to eliminate suffering of tens of millions of russians over stopping aid to iran or some other country...
I get where you are coming from, but I just don’t see why Navalny would stop the suffering of tens of millions of Russians. He’s western-aligned, a nationalist, and a capitalist. He would just be another neoliberal bastard who sells out his country for money. He claims to be anti-corruption and pro-democracy, but those two things don’t suddenly improve the lives of tens of millions of people.
But, since you are actually Russian, you probably understand the situation much better than me, so I could be completely wrong. I don’t want to speak as if I know the political climate in Russia more than an actual Russian
i in turn see where people criticizing navalny on chapo are coming from, but i suspect that most people's knowledge of the situation in russia is distorted, at least partially, in particular, i don't think people realize how much of a capitalist country russia actually is (or at least the class disparity present here), or the level of corruption that is present here: the ruling class of billionaires (with a little bit of millionaires sprinkled in the lower positions), who got rich in the chaotic and unlawful privatization of the 90s, who completely control the press, media, judicial system, who repress people for their political views, who remove funding from welfare programs... people's life expectancy, income, happiness, access to welfare are consistently falling
this is basically ronald raegan and margaret thratcher on steroids with a sprinkle of remnants of the soviet union, in the sense that russia's ruling class doesn't even need to pretend that they're trying to serve it's people..
Navalny's promise is capitalism with fewer restraints. The repression of Putin causes less suffering than the lawless corruption of the "democratic" 90s, when rich oligarchs were allowed to roam free.
Russia needs a revolution. But the time is not yet ripe. The majority of people are apprehensive of change and the leaders urging change are liberal capitalists who'll only make it worse.
most members of the opposition are particularly opposed to 90s economic system, that is, they opposite the unlawful privatization of massive previously public manufacturing plants, corruption among oligarchs and state-owned corporations, which is basically how basically all russia's billionaires were created and the leading cause of problems in russia; navalny and the opposition's views are social-democratic, you are mistaken if this is what you took from analyzing their political agenda...
Opposing it is worthless. The robbery is complete. They do not seek to reverse it.
They're allied with libertarian and conservative parties. They also oppose state subsidies for minority regions of Russia and want to put up barriers with former SU states - those are their nationalist/nativist measures.
Their ideology (from Wiki):
TL;DR Centrism, centrism, centrism. Non-interventionism.
Any Russian party will support some social democracy. But they're not more social democratic than the status quo and the classes that would support them would be westward-looking capitalists who oppose all government intervention.
Promising to oppose corruption is worthless, too. Ukraine has been trumpeting a total war on corruption and nothing has changed. Corruption is the natural byproduct of capitalism.
why do you think that navalny is equally as bad?
He's backed by the US. And then there is a long list of shitty things he has said. In any case, it's not up to me to pick a lesser evil cuz I'm not russian. But what I am sure about is that color revolutions are bad.
And any color revolution is ultimately bad for the people living there.
well, i am russian, which would mean that the political situation in russia is something tangible to me, as it concerns me directly, and as much as i dislike the us, i would much rather have decent healthcare, housing, freedom of speech, judicial system, welfare at the cost of having a us allied government
i know it's hard to compromise, and yes, navalny does hold controversial nationalistic beliefs on many issues, but it's the best option we have at the moment
I thought he wasn't popular among the opposition to Putin.
this is not that relevant here, navalny himself isn't that involved in the political process per se, as in he doesn't run for state duma or for other legislative bodies, because it's very unlikely he will be let to participate, especially so looking at the recent developments, but he and the fbk are "brewing" a lot of other candidness for various legislative positions, that is FBK supports them in various ways: helping promote them, offering legal help, helping to collect signatures to participate in elections etc etc
he himself may not be popular with the general population, but the majority of russians are fed up with their living conditions, which is shown by the declining rates of support for united russia (the current ruling party), and as a result people are ready to vote for literally anyone else besides united russia members, which is where the aforementioned candidates come in, who have a solid program of action etc etc, and this is for whom people do actually vote
the presidential role is not that important in this case, in the sense that the opposition in russia is focused on occupying and controlling smaller scale, more local government positions, which would in turn allow them to work up the chain so to speak by having more control over making sure the elections are fair etc etc