• TheCaconym [any]
    hexagon
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    4 years ago

    I should also add that 8 is obviously true, which is why a switch to communism is required in order to redistribute wealth to avoid deep injustice to the poorest.

    Number 11 is also likely true, in that the collapse of modern civilization is likely a certainty now; though that doesn't mean action is useless, since at the very least it may give us a chance - however small - to avoid much worse: human extinction (and that of much of the biosphere).

    • vsaush [he/him]
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      4 years ago

      Modern capitalist civilization must collapse, this has been the case for the last 150 years or more. It's wasteful, imperialistic, unjust, etc. Whether we get socialism or the common ruin of the contending classes depends on what we do over this decade.

      • TheCaconym [any]
        hexagon
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        4 years ago

        On that we agree, but the current trajectory leans towards the collapse of all forms of civilization, be they capitalist or not (and in large part thanks to capitalism itself). Communism is still worth fighting for, mainly for the small interim period where things get really bad, but we are going back to a dark age (except not really, more like a weird possibly feudal agrarian-cyberpunk mix I think - but that's the very best option I still hold up hope for, and it's unlikely) for sure. The real worry is that by all metrics, previous similar CO2e events lead to wide-scale extinction (and we're emitting CO2 like there's no tomorrow - at least 10x as fast as the worst mass extinction on the historical record).