https://www.businessinsider.com/idf-says-wont-back-up-beheaded-babies-disrespectful-2023-10

  • SacredExcrement [any, comrade/them]
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    1 year ago

    The instant I heard this one, I just immediately thought of the Iraq War testimony that somebody's relative made up to an American committee about how Iraqis were murdering babies in incubators.

    Especially with no pictures...in this day and age? There's pictures of everything now archived on the net, and there's zero chance a nation as committed to online propaganda as Israel wouldn't throw them (or SOMETHING) into an article at a moment's notice if they were real. They have apps specifically designed for generating propaganda on social media.

    But yeah sure, 1 soldier saying 'they killed babies' is definitely reliable testimony, we all know soldiers, and IDF soldiers especially, never lie.

    • 420blazeit69 [he/him]
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      1 year ago

      I just immediately thought of the Iraq War testimony that somebody's relative made up to an American committee about how Iraqis were murdering babies in incubators.

      https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nayirah_testimony

      Her story was initially corroborated by Amnesty International, a British-based global NGO, which published a report about the supposed killings and testimony from evacuees. Following the liberation of Kuwait, reporters were given access to the country. An ABC report found that "patients, including premature babies, did die, when many of Kuwait's nurses and doctors ... fled" but Iraqi troops "almost certainly had not stolen hospital incubators and left hundreds of Kuwaiti babies to die." Amnesty International USA reacted by issuing a correction, with executive director John Healey subsequently accusing the Bush administration of "opportunistic manipulation of the international human rights movement"...

      On January 6, 1992, The New York Times published an op-ed piece by John MacArthur entitled "Remember Nayirah, Witness for Kuwait?" MacArthur discovered that Nayirah was the daughter of the Kuwaiti Ambassador to the U.S., Saud Nasir al-Sabah.

      • SacredExcrement [any, comrade/them]
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        1 year ago

        Yes, that is the one.

        Babies in incubators...such shameless lies, obviously chosen because of how well it tugs on the heartstrings.

        So viciously manipulative.

        • GarbageShoot [he/him]
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          1 year ago

          It's called "atrocity propaganda" and using that term you can find countless more stories.

      • LeninWeave [none/use name]
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        1 year ago

        Amnesty International USA reacted by issuing a correction, with executive director John Healey subsequently accusing the Bush administration of "opportunistic manipulation of the international human rights movement"...

        How dare they opportunistically manipulate us by somehow making us fabricate witness testimony from evacuees? Surely we can all agree that the "international human rights movement" (ursus-hexagonia) is just a poor mislead smol bean.

    • zephyreks [none/use name]
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      1 year ago

      We NEED more investigative journalism. I don't know how to decouple proper investigative journalism with the vibes-based bullshit the West pumps out, but this is entirely unsustainable.

      • RyanGosling [none/use name]
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        1 year ago

        Almost every journalist that has enough resources to travel work for corporate or state media. It’s unlikely that any “independent” Israeli journalist can be trusted