• glibg10b@lemmy.ml
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    9 months ago

    Von Der is not Afrikaans, but Van Der is.

    Also, Apartheid ended 30 years ago and was the politicians' doing, not the citizens'. South Africa wasn't a democracy, remember?

    I think it's fair to say that at least 90% of white South Africans agree that Apartheid was a bad thing.

    • Tankiedesantski [he/him]
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      9 months ago

      I think it's fair to say that at least 90% of white South Africans agree that Apartheid was a bad thing.

      In much the same way 90% of Germans suddenly had very negative opinions about Nazism in 1945.

    • aaaaaaadjsf [he/him, comrade/them]
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      9 months ago

      I think it's fair to say that at least 90% of white South Africans agree that Apartheid was a bad thing.

      I wish. In my personal experience it's simply not true beyond a surface level "apartheid bad". Any deeper conversation or questioning reveals the truth.

      • the_kid
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        9 months ago

        do you know any good history books about apartheid SA? I embarrassingly don't know much about it myself

        • aaaaaaadjsf [he/him, comrade/them]
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          9 months ago

          I learnt most of it at school, but Max Coleman's analysis of apartheid as a crime against humanity should be a good book explaining just how horrific it was. I think it's available for free here. The same website has lots of good articles too, including a basic summary of what apartheid was .

          https://www.sahistory.org.za/archive/crime-against-humanity-analysing-repression-apartheid-state-edited-max-coleman

          This summary, and the content in the "articles" section at the bottom of the page, is also pretty good.

          https://www.sahistory.org.za/article/history-apartheid-south-africa

          • the_kid
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            9 months ago

            rat-salute

            going to check this out, thanks. I think it's literally not even covered in US schools, I don't remember ever learning about it.

            • aaaaaaadjsf [he/him, comrade/them]
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              9 months ago

              Wow they don't cover it at all? Here in South Africa, we even learn about MLK Jr and Malcolm X, the Vietnam war and cold war in general in history. And of course we learn about our own country.

              • the_kid
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                9 months ago

                I've been out of school for a long time so I could be remembering wrong, but I don't remember ever learning about it. everything I do know is from what I've read/watched/heard and it's all very cursory. I mean, we barely even learn about slavery in our own country, so I guess it makes sense.

    • GarbageShoot [he/him]
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      9 months ago

      Beneficiaries of Apartheid saying it was bad now that it is over means very little. Ghouls like the Musks still run roughshod over the world with the spoils they took and still exploit minorities wherever it benefits them.

    • Evilsandwichman [none/use name]
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      9 months ago

      South Africa wasn't a democracy, remember?

      I tried googling for this but I'm finding that while the elected government was extremely oppressive, it still held elections.