"Are there union jobs in software engineering? What are they like?"

https://www.reddit.com/r/cscareerquestions/comments/lgx48u/are_there_union_jobs_in_software_engineering_what/

  • Parzivus [any]
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    3 years ago

    This is why there are so many horror stories about game development, there are a ton of fresh CS grads who have the same attitude as OP and are massively exploited for it

    • Wojackhorseman2 [he/him]
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      3 years ago

      A lot of people working in creative industries in general get exploited like that bc the capitalists take advantage of their passion like “well you should just be happy you’re able to work doing what you love! You gotta pay those dues and work for next to nothing or for exposure for a few years kid!”

    • TheCaconym [any]
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      3 years ago

      All the tech bros that i know that spend hours on end working are just young and reach burnout like my old ass eventually.

      :side-eye-1: :side-eye-2:

      He's right, folks, you do get burnout eventually and it's fucking horrible.

      • p_sharikov [he/him]
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        3 years ago

        Yeah, it turns out work as we know it is alienating and therefore cannot fulfill or sustain you even if you like it.

          • invalidusernamelol [he/him]
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            3 years ago

            Man, I can't even imagine having a desk job. That shit's like so far outside my realm of understanding. Like some imaginary world I've only ever seen in movies.

    • JuneFall [none/use name]
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      3 years ago

      I had a lot of different wage labour situations, the one which I was pretty comfortable in was a two and a half days work week with roughly 18 hours per week. The compensation was around 25 thousand $ per year (included healthcare and pension of 1100$ monthly after 30 years). The time I could spend on reproductive work, organizing, hobbies, friends and such was worth much more than when I worked 40 hours to get more money.

      The job I was most comfortable in was two days every week with home work office (it was about monitoring and keeping a cluster of servers running and having at least one technician at the place at any given point - that is as long as they paid us to be there). I was there on average 7 hours a week, but not every week and did the rest remotely and sometimes with meeting the rest of the crew to watch movies, agitate for strikes and eat and cheap-ish delis. Was good to also introduce models in which we would more ore less democratically decide who would like to work when and how to handle conflicts of interests. The pay wasn't that great - roughly 16k$ per year, however it was also only 15 hours a week and with sleazy contracts.

  • GVAGUY3 [he/him]
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    3 years ago

    CS people in my experience are either like this or pretty disillusioned with the industry.

          • GVAGUY3 [he/him]
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            3 years ago

            At least it seems the silicon valley ideology seemed to take a hit under Trump. Hopefully enough people can build off of that Alphabet Union thing and this Amazon warehouse union to further break down the propaganda inside their head, as well as provide them a place to go and understand what is wrong.

            • invalidusernamelol [he/him]
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              3 years ago

              The best antidote to propaganda is reality. As salaries continue to stagnate in the tech industry and the average age of tech workers goes up, you'll see a lot more people accepting that they need something more than "passion" to feed their families.

  • makotech222 [he/him]
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    3 years ago

    Damn, i've been a software engineer for around 8 years now and never met a fellow lefty.

      • invalidusernamelol [he/him]
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        3 years ago

        Having worked at like 6 different sub $8/hr places over the past 5 years, I can safely say that it's not just software devs with that problem.

        The only job I had besides the pizza delivery gig I lost due to covid with comrades was one in the back room of a turbo housing factory (making ME Abrams turbos) doing QC and I was the only person who spoke English there. We all also got between $5 and $8/hr depending on legal status.

    • GVAGUY3 [he/him]
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      3 years ago

      Bizarrely, I've met quite a few. Pretty much everyone in my CS class went Bernie. Problem is getting them further on the pipeline.

    • crime [she/her, any]
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      3 years ago

      I've met a handful of genuine comrades but have only ever worked with, like, 2

  • mayo_cider [he/him]
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    3 years ago

    If you work in IT, remember that office supplies that fit in your pocket are pretty expensive and no one actually keeps track of the HDMI cables.

  • spectre [he/him]
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    3 years ago

    If you want to work extra why not just contrubute to the open-source version of whatever you're working on?

    • blobjim [he/him]
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      3 years ago

      Company would probably sue you lol (if they didn't explicitly allow you to work on it).

  • ultraviolet [she/her]
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    3 years ago

    I won't even work 70 hours/week for myself lol. Why the fuck would I lick someone's dirty boots?