Clean energy is basically only nuclear, which is laughably unclean if you think about it for five seconds. Maybe geothermal is clean. Solar might be clean if it's done locally in the regions that produce those minerals, but I doubt it.

  • Tofu_Lewis [he/him]
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    4 years ago

    Tidal, geothermal, wind, hydro - in order, are the cleanest. Beyond that the sources get exponentially more harmful. I honestly don't get the uncrtical support for nuclear power on this site - shit is dangerous.

    • sysgen [none/use name,they/them]
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      4 years ago

      How is it actually dangerous? Hydro, which I love, has caused more environmental damage and death per Wh generated than nuclear power.

      • Tofu_Lewis [he/him]
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        4 years ago

        Hydro can be done with a relatively low highly localized impact, heck beavers do that shit (it takes a will to make hydo low impact, a will not often present). I'm not sure if you're being serious about the dangerousness of nuclear power but I'd point you to the enormous efforts that must be expended to safely mine the materials, train the technicians, operate the plants safely, dispose of the materials, and safely decomission the plants. Add on to that the fact that nuclear materials are poisonous for thousands and thousands of years - there were people seriously considering launching nuclear waste into the sun to get it off of Earth (until they realized that having a rocket carrying nuclear waste explode in the upper atmosphere would be really, really bad). Look into the Hanford Nuclear Site and the issues they've had with it as recently as 2013.

        • sysgen [none/use name,they/them]
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          4 years ago

          Yes, if you put in an absolutely massive amount of work, you can do hydro with low and highly localized impact. You can make nuclear energy with a lower total impact with less work. This includes everything you were talking about as far as safe mining, and so on.

          The issues with disposal and decomission are issues of scale. If we had truly scaled up nuclear with mass-produced reactors, disposal and decomission would become orders of magnitude easier.