At the same time "no ethics under capitalism" cannot be used to excuse deeply immoral and unethical behaviour. If some software engineer works for the US military or Raytheon or Lockheed Martin or any other military contractor or weapons manufacturer and calls themselves a leftist you can be damn sure I'll look at them funny and "purity test" them. Like "no ethics under capitalism" does not mean do whatever you want and actively make life worse for others in exchange for personal gain.
Yeah due to all the murkiness and that I think sticking to clear obvious examples of deeply immoral behaviour is best at the moment. Like no need to go after some Google or tech worker whose work is indirectly used by the CIA without their knowledge. But working directly in the MIC as a software engineer = bad basically.
Even then, I would still ask: is making satellites or radios or waterproof clothing for the military worse than, say, what Nestlé or DuPont are doing? I would argue no. I don't think it's easy to draw clear lines with this stuff.
At the same time "no ethics under capitalism" cannot be used to excuse deeply immoral and unethical behaviour. If some software engineer works for the US military or Raytheon or Lockheed Martin or any other military contractor or weapons manufacturer and calls themselves a leftist you can be damn sure I'll look at them funny and "purity test" them. Like "no ethics under capitalism" does not mean do whatever you want and actively make life worse for others in exchange for personal gain.
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Yeah due to all the murkiness and that I think sticking to clear obvious examples of deeply immoral behaviour is best at the moment. Like no need to go after some Google or tech worker whose work is indirectly used by the CIA without their knowledge. But working directly in the MIC as a software engineer = bad basically.
Even then, I would still ask: is making satellites or radios or waterproof clothing for the military worse than, say, what Nestlé or DuPont are doing? I would argue no. I don't think it's easy to draw clear lines with this stuff.