I’m pretty libertarian in regards to things like drugs and sex, and am an addict myself. How would you guys feel about a harm reduction drug use sub forum?

  • MagisterSinister [he/him,comrade/them]
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    4 years ago

    I'd be interested in that, but there's a couple things to keep in mind. There are some good points raised in here about how such a sub could be harmful to recovering users, so it probably won't be a thing until keyword filters are in place. That's something the mods are already working on for other reasons, though.

    Another point is that the drug war has always been used against leftists in the US. It's always been much easier in America to jail somebody over posession of a schedule one substance than to jail somebody over being a leftist. I mean, if the feds are seriously out to get you, they don't need you to post on here about how you just picked up a bag of molly to do that, but it's an additional risk you're exposing yourself to. I'm also assuming that the average user here is not on a list of the ten most wanted antifa extremists in the US, so your risk of getting into trouble hugely depends on how easy it is to pin something on you. But not all of our posters are American, and not all drugs are illegal, and not all talk about drug use equals admitting to a felony. Under my jurisdiction, writing out detailed death wishes for public figures and celebrating arson is a higher legal risk than writing out a trip report or giving information on how to wash your speed. This point is very hard to generalize, but it's something that requires a lot of user discretion regardless and having a dedicated community just for drug topics will nudge some people to incriminate themselves.

    There's also a site-wide security concern in that becoming a drug marketplace is a good way to get the site shut down. If you look at existing drug sites, these tend to have strict rules against sourcing in place, even for legal substances or for stuff that's in a legal grey area. This is also a problem for people outside of this place. I was around for the big RC hype of the early 10s and i'd definitely say that too much publicity is the main factor in getting new drugs banned and getting vendors shut down. This also applies to ways to buy drugs irl if you don't have a stable connect. If every "where to buy acid outside of the darknet" request is met with half a dozen people saying "just go to (x) type of party and ask around, look out for people like (y)", you're pointing law enforcement in the direction of that scene and these people. Who gets frisked for drugs is based largely on heuristics. Most of these heuristics are outright racial profiling, but some are also based on visibly belonging to certain subcultures or being in the wrong place (a public square were drugs are sold, a club known for widespread use etc.). Talking about drugs always leads to the "where to get drugs" question and answering that question is usually problematic. If we'd be building a containment comm for this purpose, it may also be a good idea to deactivate DMs there to reduce the amount of people DMing each other to find hookups.

    Then there's the point that people on here vary wildly in how they respond to drugs. It's very easy to forget that vulnerabilities vary so much. I've never had a problem with polydrug use, i could always leave it at just experimenting or stuck to taking my favorites two or three times a year. So i'm in a much more privileged situation than many other drug users. Then i run into people who actually need opioids for pain mangement, or people who have fought with addiction for decades, or people with some pre-existing health issues that make taking drugs i handle easily really dangerous for them.

    It's a complicated issue. I see a lot of good reason to have a place where we can share ressources on this subject, unbiased and accurate information is absolutely crucial if you want to be reasonably safe about your use. There's a lot of that information out there already, but that info is spread far and wide and it's generally a good thing to be able to point comrades in that direction. I don't view that as enabling in itself, either. But how we deal with this is tricky. Like, when i post about drugs on here, i'm always holding back a bit. I know i can write about drugs in a way that makes people want to take drugs, and i want to avoid that. But i also think that our society needs to build a better culture around drug use, one where people act based on knowledge instead of scaremongering. And that is an issue that is relevant to the left, as both the drug war and other aspects (like how a deeply consumerist culture abuses drugs and how drugs fit into material conditions that are often hard to bear without chemical copes) are issues that can only be properly adressed from a leftist perspective.