(Tweets span October 7 to October 8 2023 UTC)

Justin Schlosberg (@jrschlosberg): Virtually all human history of violent resistance to violent oppression - with the possible exception of Northern Ireland in the 20th century - is a history of abject failure.

Its why leaders like MLK and Gandhi deplored it and Malcolm X and Mandela abandoned it.

Dog Pope (@Dog__Pope): Haiti, Angola, South Africa, Cuba, Vietnam, I could genuinely go on.

Justin: I must confess I perhaps don't possess the breadth of historical knowledge to justify that rather sweeping statement.. but I don't believe it was the armed struggle that defeated apartheid in South Africa..

Dog Pope: Maybe actually read some history before making such declarations. It's genuinely very unhelpful.

Justin: Thanks Dog. And remember it's OK to express a difference of opinion without resorting to personalised attacks. I recommend trying it some time.

Dog Pope: No, you don't as a supposed intellectual get to proclaim a strong opinion on something you clearly had no idea about, the amount of shit I had to read yesterday from people paid to be wise has made me even more cynical, which I didn't even know was possible.

Dog Pope: It's ahistorical, lazy and honestly you've now made people question your rigor on more than history questionable. How is anyone supposed to trust what your write when you haven't even got a basic grasp on modern history?