for example all time greats are:

Intersectionality is opposed Marxism

Queer Theory is opposed to Marxism

Postmodernism is opposed to Marxism

Postcolonialism is opposed to Marxism

Feminism is opposed to Marxism

Identity politics exists because of Stalinism

it's all just shit like that, they seem to fundamentaly oppose any theory after Lenin.

I've tried arguing wih them for example about Intersectionslity, but they just say that it can't incorporate class because then they wouldn't need to use it anymore because it is the only thing that matters.

all reform is useless because it doesn't remove capitalism(black liberation, lgbt+ liberation?)

They now try to explain foucault and described him as anti-marxist.(turns out that's true)

"Queer Theorie says it is reactionary to be cis." "intersectionality leads to infighting about who is the most opressed"

They use postmodernism and idealism as some kind of slurs for ideas and all of the above is idealist, only the material ever matters. Idealism is petit-burgoise, post-modern nonsense

Also they are explicitly anti-pluralist in their organisation and don't want to do anything except growing by recruiting students. Like I can't even convince them to go help the foodbank.

Because these people(at hte foodbank) are apparently too pre-occupied with survuval to educate themselves about marxism. So any energy on them is wasted. They can't be useful as activists and we must grow first before we can help people. (which is a shit reason)

They also say shit like that all opression is based on class, and that intersectionality splits the working class and should be avoided. That privileges don't exist because you can't make individuals responsible for opression because it all comes from above.

This video explains what is happening here. It's their exact points.

They only ever go somewehere to hand out flyers, not for support. (one guy actually said we couldn't go to the foodbank beecause we would have to do work there and couldn't just hand out flyers)

I don't know if still have the energy to fight against this bullshit and I've read some more about intersectionality but, they've "indoctrinated" themselves about this shit for years and i am not making any progress. It makes me angry and tired.

  • Spinoza [any]
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    4 years ago

    i wouldn't be surprised. if your city is like mine (it might even be mine lol) you'll find a lot of the opposite - people who just do the work and aren't building a party or thinking about growth at all. i tend to hang around that crowd more, and am hoping summer or covid improvement will allow for some organizing

      • Spinoza [any]
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        4 years ago

        oh damn they really are that universally cringe, huh?

          • Spinoza [any]
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            4 years ago

            they've covered for and denied at least one sexual assault within their org, are notoriously bad at working with unions and other groups, and from this post it looks like they've got the same class reductionist shit as your bunch

            in my area i don't even know if any of their members are workers; they all look like students to me

            • DerEwigeAtheist [she/her, comrade/them]
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              4 years ago

              Here they explicitly focus on only recruiting students. Apparently to focus on educating them, but the thing is. They never do anything with their orgs. Also ew to the SA. I've been a member for half a year or so and as far as i can see they've done jackshit. I can work with bad theory as long as praxis still happens, but neither is there and they also actively oppose doing anyhting. Sorry for ranting a bit. Thanks for the answer.

              Edit:reading that comment from that ex member is like looking in a mirror, thanks for the link.

              • Spinoza [any]
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                4 years ago

                yeah ouch, sucks that there isn't anything better for either of us

                here are more

                • DerEwigeAtheist [she/her, comrade/them]
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                  4 years ago

                  Sadly their membership frequents my favourite bar, so i'll still see them. (Post-corona)

                  Let's see what's in the future. i've already been warned that another org around here also is some weird cult.

                  I was at first thinking of trying a bit longer to convince them to do anything that's not selling papers, but now i don't think i will. as a member i have access to all their planning documents, and it really is just no praxis wanted.

                  Thinking about sending these links to members to see how they react.