She was on to something. I've had more love and kindness shown to me from complete strangers than my entire family combined, who live to spite me. I keep telling my mom that people are generally good, it's what's got us living in the modern age, it's just that capitalism keeps the good people from sticking together.

      • ProfessionalSlacker
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        4 years ago

        It's not because they are a family, it's because Liz Bruenig is a social conservative and everyone just ignores it cuz she's pro Bernie

        • Shinji_Ikari [he/him]
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          4 years ago

          Could you elaborate? I honestly have ignored the bruenigs for the most part and listened to the recent pod and enjoyed listening to them talk. I know people talk bad about them but I don't understand why.

          • ProfessionalSlacker
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            4 years ago

            Just gonna copy and paste what I wrote below:

            She’s written about how Republicans have a “reasonably sound position on sexual ethics,” that homosexuality/abortion/“a libertine attitude towards sexuality” are morally unsound, and (while I can’t find it anymore) blamed a man getting away with murdering his gf on the woman being into BDSM.

            • Audeamus [any]
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              4 years ago

              LOL the Tweets you linked didn't spell this out, but if this is accurate then yeah that's fucked up. BDSM-fearmongering is clueless and homophobia is a non-starter, that's more conservative than the Pope.

              • ProfessionalSlacker
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                4 years ago

                She literally calls the Democrats' approach to sex ethics "unconscionable" and the sex ethics of the Republican party "reasonably sound" in the screenshot there, so I'm not quite sure what I need to spell out for you.

                • Audeamus [any]
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                  4 years ago

                  Read the whole blog link because I couldn't tell who was talking what from the screenshots alone... It's a little more vague than her calling the Democrats' approach to sex "unconscionable" - she says that's the perspective that Christians face, which is not the same as stating that view outright. But yeah, she's a social conservative, though she actually cares about poverty and the environment as much as about sex.

          • ProfessionalSlacker
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            4 years ago

            She has the good sense to rarely mention it and keep a sense of plausible deniability, but I'm tired of people acting like it's overreacting to call her a reactionary. She's written about how Republicans have a "reasonably sound position on sexual ethics," that homosexuality/abortion/"a libertine attitude towards sexuality" are morally unsound, and (while I can't find it anymore) blamed a man getting away with murdering his gf on the woman being into BDSM. She's a fucking ghoul.

    • JoesFrackinJack [he/him]
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      4 years ago

      Do people really dislike them or is it a bit? I don't follow both of them but have seen their posts quite a bit and they usually seem very tame. Idk how trad socialism "works" but i know a couple people who are Christian socialists and they seem fine, is that any different?

      • ProfessionalSlacker
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        4 years ago

        https://twitter.com/bent_n_/status/1362627424819830785?s=19

        This was written 7 years ago, so maybe she's completely disowned these views since but I certainly haven't seen shit and people seem to think it's not a big deal because she doesn't talk like this in public as much anymore and supports M4A.

        • JoesFrackinJack [he/him]
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          4 years ago

          oh damn that is pretty fuckin reactionary. I'm glad she disowned it but uhhh, not a good look either way. Thanks for that

        • Audeamus [any]
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          4 years ago

          No idea what that's saying without context. She says we need "sexual ethics" - couldn't that mean anything (including things like respecting consent)? "Libertine" sexuality is cool, but people (especially religious ones) can have a more conservative personal approach to sexuality if they want - that's not the same as slut-shaming or fighting against biology. I.e. you can be a literal volcel if you want.

          Or am I missing something?

          • astigmatic [none/use name]
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            4 years ago

            no you're wrong nobody should ever talk to her or her husband about completely unrelated topics again