Thoughts on this? Reading this it feels almost like seeing a light at the end of the tunnel. For years I projected a lot of this discourse onto myself, possibly as a way to mask over my own gender identity issues.

I held back every response I could think of because I didn't feel like I could convince someone I was bringing it forward in good faith. But if we bring up our trans comrades in the context of this dialogue I feel like we could really be taken seriously. Like it opens up so many opportunities for solidarity.

What am I missing here? What do you folks think?

  • ChromeFlux [he/him]
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    4 years ago

    I've always felt like I can't talk about the subject, because either you say " I agree men are trash but at some points I do feel targeted by resentment." and they say "Well if you feel offended by this you're the problem." or you pretend like you're not part of the problem and don't get offended at all and sit on the sidelines when someone else says something stupid like "Men are Trash is sexist, imagine if we went around saying "Women are trash?" as if that's not the entire point of their argument is to flip it onto men. I've always been against the patriarchy, and there are so many things that women have to deal with, and I think it's unfortunate and heartbreaking what women have to go through to get to the point where they unironically resort to "Kill All Men." as their everything, politically.

    It's a culture war, and I hope they win, but I can't imagine what it actually accomplishes other than securing safe spaces for women hurt by men. (Which is good) but also, it's not going to force men as a whole to reconsider their life choices and the shitty stuff that they regularly engage in. (I don't know how you would best do that, which is why i'm not one to criticize)

    • VernetheJules [they/them]
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      4 years ago

      Yeah I mean literally my first reaction was "not all men" which is used in bad faith and would absolve me of all responsibility without really giving the issues much thought. So I just never said it.

      But hearing how this has also affected men who are marginalized in other ways gives me hope that I can use my privilege to build solidarity with those groups, and then as a whole we can collectively say "Hey, that hurts. Is there another way we can communicate this with less collateral damage?" and know that we'll be taken seriously.