it's obviously a corporation vs corporation vs corporation and whoever wins we lose
but damn if hearing apple being scared doesn't feel goodThey should just reply with “Soon,” and see if the court figures it out.
Lmao and apple has hoodwinked their customers into believing they care about privacy
Valve says it does not “in the ordinary course of business keep the information Apple seeks for a simple reason: Valve doesn’t need it.”
WE NEED ALL UR DATA
"wait u guys take data?"that said I feel it's extremely unlikely that Valve doesn't take anything down to suggest games to its users. Anyone want to compare their login suggested game ad?
Mine was Street Fighter V
Lots of ways to do suggested games without itemising every single transaction.
That said, I imagine they do have the data, at least in some form, for accounting reasons.
That said, I imagine they do have the data, at least in some form, for accounting reasons.
Looking at what it said Apple was requesting, it's entirely feasible that they don't. They may well not keep logs of every price change every single game historically has had (although they could potentially reconstruct that by looking at sales transaction histories), and they may lose a degree of information when recording transactions depending on how its encoded.
It may also include microtransactions that Valve doesn't see at all and only serves as a storefront for purchasing premium currency (or requires a company to report microtransaction revenue from steam users).
Valve is very open about tracking data to suggest games to their users. That was the whole point of their storefront revamp, to try to create a Spotify-esque “ recommendation system.
I got Tekken 7 so I'm pretty sure that makes me the only true leftist or something.
i think Valve is kinda trash sometimes, but Apple is just evil, so hopefully Valve wins the case
They're both capitalist companies, it doesn't even matter, one is not "better" than the other.
Is this just Apple trying to get data to help boost their Apple Arcade service or something :D
I've always disliked Apple's curation of their brand as superior and magical
I've been interested in Valve since HL1, they consciously decided to remain a private company so that they would not lose creative control - which is pretty clear from much of their history with indie devs and linux gaming at least
- plus Yanis Varoufakis worked there - so critical support for Valve
if you've read the dev log of HL1, there's a lot of good ideas about how to organize creative teams and projects to produce pretty effective and interesting things
here's a few of the choice excerpts:
"The workers control the means of production" https://hexbear.net/pictrs/image/8JFXewtyh6.jpg
Work Culture at Valve: https://hexbear.net/pictrs/image/HRSXLwAigm.jpg
full article on Valve's Cabal Dev process for HL1 here:
https://www.gamasutra.com/view/feature/131815/the_cabal_valves_design_process_.php
