I fiddled with the piano for a few years starting in high school. Could play some Bach but never felt like it was natural. At the start of lockdown I bought a guitar and tuned it in perfect fourths and it was like a whole world of applying theory was blown open. All I need to do is move my hand up or down a fret and that changes the root of the mode? I don't need to get accustomed to a mode as a specific permutation of black and white keys?

It's like an order of magnitude less complex. It's tough to fully voice intricate chords by myself, but it's more than worth it for a flat grid of notes instead of the hellish terrain of the piano.

Maybe if the Lumatone gets an affordable version I'll pick that up.

(Or I could just get a keyboard that shifts around on the firmware level so I can play any diatonic mode on the white keys... does anyone else do that? I guess that would still make it really annoying to modulate mid-performance.)

  • viva_la_juche [they/them, any]
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    4 years ago

    yeah guitar makes it really easy to modulate bc of the even distribution of notes.

    with piano, for me learning modes and stuff it was just brute memorization. I'd sit there with a metronome and run them. But i'm not a proper pianist and I dont remember all them. these days i just use midi to transpose things to whichever mode i'm most comfortable with, like if i'm playing phrygian ill just modulate E phrygian to whatever key I want.

    I play in the studio 99% of the time and almost never perform keyboard any more so doesn't really matter to me lol

    • vertexarray [any]
      hexagon
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      4 years ago

      Nice, I might take that same approach. I'm looking at the piano for arranging purposes rather than performance so MIDI transposition seems like the way to go.

      • viva_la_juche [they/them, any]
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        4 years ago

        midi makes everything easy. And if you use ableton or whatever they have a "midi effect" plugin that can transpose your midi, so you can record it in standard and then change the notes "post-tape" that way when you play f on your keyboard it's still f in the piano roll instead of like g if you transposed up a whole step or whatever from the keyboard itself.

    • epic_gamer_2007 [he/him]
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      4 years ago

      Same. I play both piano and keyboard percussion stuff, and the set-up is so natural to me that I can just run through all 12 major keys easily. But I tried picking up banjo/guitar and man, is it a whole different ball game. It's nice to be able to just throw a capo on to modulate, but I have no idea how to go about learning different fingerings and chord structures.

  • CuminAndSalt [he/him]
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    4 years ago

    tuned it in perfect fourths

    Even your 2nd and 3rd strings? Does that give you an f on your 1st string?

    • vertexarray [any]
      hexagon
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      4 years ago

      to tune in P4 I put the top two strings up a semitone, resulting in EADGCF

      • CuminAndSalt [he/him]
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        4 years ago

        What do your bread-and-butter chords look like in p4? So many of the standard tuning chord shapes are built on barring strings 1-5

        • vertexarray [any]
          hexagon
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          4 years ago

          I'm usually playing thrash or doom so I don't usually play barre chords. Also I never learned how to play standard tuning so I don't really know what I'm missing out on :x