Part of the reason I became a leftist when I was young was that you goofballs post a lot of chomsky and historical facts. Right wingers don't really do it, and if they do it's a really narrow subject like economics when society should be viewed holistically.
The existence of thousands and thousands like you is exactly why I'm with OP on this.
It doesn't change the conditions, that is true, it will never achieve revolution by itself, but it is critically needed as a part of the whole. The online work people are doing is creating more growth than every other effort out there and growth is what we need.
I see us as needing to achieve a number of things:
Growth.
Education.
Radicalisation.
Willingness to act.
Means to act.
Growth, education and radicalisation are all fundamentally viable via posting. We lack more spaces like Chapo that do radicalisation work. Growth and Education we've got in abundance and growing every day but the next step from understanding basic socialism into radicalising is a problem and spaces Chapo need growing that achieve it.
Willingness and means however are only achieved through organising outside.
This is our recruiting station for the front lines (organizing).
I agree with this assessment.
If you look at it as a pipeline, with each step before needed before a person progresses to the next (not true of all but true of most) then it goes:
Growth (initial stage of people switching from lib to socialist). These people are radlibs.
Education (Learning that socialists aren't liberals and that liberals are bad, also that socialism isn't just welfare). These people are dem socs.
Radicalisation (Learning that democracy can never achieve socialism. That only revolution will achieve change.) These people are anarchists and nominally marxist-leninist but without a party.
Willingness to act. (Where people start looking for orgs to join to take part in action)
Means to act. (Where people are now part of orgs and performing action)
This pipeline must be well understood.
I also argue that it is sometimes bad for people to jump into organising before they have reached the radicalisation stage, from the perspective of revolutionaries, because those people aren't revolutionary and they dilute the potential radical energy of any protest. Although in many cases people that do go out and organise will meet revolutionaries and get flipped red in the field instead of online.
Part of the reason I became a leftist when I was young was that you goofballs post a lot of chomsky and historical facts. Right wingers don't really do it, and if they do it's a really narrow subject like economics when society should be viewed holistically.
The existence of thousands and thousands like you is exactly why I'm with OP on this.
It doesn't change the conditions, that is true, it will never achieve revolution by itself, but it is critically needed as a part of the whole. The online work people are doing is creating more growth than every other effort out there and growth is what we need.
I see us as needing to achieve a number of things:
Growth, education and radicalisation are all fundamentally viable via posting. We lack more spaces like Chapo that do radicalisation work. Growth and Education we've got in abundance and growing every day but the next step from understanding basic socialism into radicalising is a problem and spaces Chapo need growing that achieve it.
Willingness and means however are only achieved through organising outside.
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I agree with this assessment.
If you look at it as a pipeline, with each step before needed before a person progresses to the next (not true of all but true of most) then it goes:
This pipeline must be well understood.
I also argue that it is sometimes bad for people to jump into organising before they have reached the radicalisation stage, from the perspective of revolutionaries, because those people aren't revolutionary and they dilute the potential radical energy of any protest. Although in many cases people that do go out and organise will meet revolutionaries and get flipped red in the field instead of online.