Yes. You are probably more eloquent than me but I echo a lot of your sentiments. I think there’s a huge discussion to have on that and how college students are easily exploitable because of their economic situation but in a public liberal space with an obvious hit piece I don’t find that to be the place for this nuance and found it more acceptable to just say that it’s a hit piece. I’ve learned that focusing on nuance in hostile areas often just leads people to think I’m agreeing with the general premise of a smear or lie if I do that.
No that’s totally valid, I just jumped on because I do have experience with the sort of vague aspect of how being an adult in college but still in a disadvantaged/easily explored place in life can lead you down some really unfortunate shit. I still haven’t come out with my stories about that and I want to but I don’t want to really deal with a public response to that.
But yeah, I completely understand that we aren’t collectively ready for that conversation. And really it just feels like we are infantilizing college students in this story using woke me too language without any concrete input from anyone claiming to be a victim. I would rather hear that. So if anyone can point me to that, I’m all ears, but I haven’t seen any of that.
Also the whole ~role model~ discourse just reminds me of how people talk about female celebrities. Like when Miley Cyrus branded herself as publicly horny or whatever and everyone was like “omg these are the ~role models~ for our children.” It just doesn’t sit right with me. And literally anyone can be a role model, even a role model with a moderately sized platform, and that doesn’t seem to me to be enough to say that sex with that person is inherently exploitative.
Yes. You are probably more eloquent than me but I echo a lot of your sentiments. I think there’s a huge discussion to have on that and how college students are easily exploitable because of their economic situation but in a public liberal space with an obvious hit piece I don’t find that to be the place for this nuance and found it more acceptable to just say that it’s a hit piece. I’ve learned that focusing on nuance in hostile areas often just leads people to think I’m agreeing with the general premise of a smear or lie if I do that.
No that’s totally valid, I just jumped on because I do have experience with the sort of vague aspect of how being an adult in college but still in a disadvantaged/easily explored place in life can lead you down some really unfortunate shit. I still haven’t come out with my stories about that and I want to but I don’t want to really deal with a public response to that.
But yeah, I completely understand that we aren’t collectively ready for that conversation. And really it just feels like we are infantilizing college students in this story using woke me too language without any concrete input from anyone claiming to be a victim. I would rather hear that. So if anyone can point me to that, I’m all ears, but I haven’t seen any of that.
Also the whole ~role model~ discourse just reminds me of how people talk about female celebrities. Like when Miley Cyrus branded herself as publicly horny or whatever and everyone was like “omg these are the ~role models~ for our children.” It just doesn’t sit right with me. And literally anyone can be a role model, even a role model with a moderately sized platform, and that doesn’t seem to me to be enough to say that sex with that person is inherently exploitative.