idk just seems weird all my friends are anarkiddies and im like i wish chapo was my friends :(

  • qublic69 [none/use name]
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    4 years ago

    "Of course it’s a state and eventually needs to be abolished"

    I'm like a 'tankiddie', haven't read nearly enough. But I feel like this whole "state needs to be abolished" thing easily conflates nationalism and having a government.
    I oppose nationalism, and a utopian society would have open borders; but at no point could I say that government should be abolished, at most it could be decentralized.
    To me, land without government is just a power vacuum. If "abolish the state" means abolish the nation state, then sure, abolish it.

    I think people should be more precise when they say "abolish the state"; because I don't even know what it means, and I actually try listening to anarchists sometimes.

    • Gorn [they/them,he/him]
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      4 years ago

      I could be wrong, but I think everyone, from communists to anarchists, believe that, under communism, once the state has gone, we'll still need governance, just not via a state--ie. one decision-making body, separate from the people, that has a monopoly on violence and makes laws and enforces them through coercion, etc.

      You'll still need town councils and federated governance and, like, a train gang to keep the trains running and all that good stuff. It's hard to specifically prefigure, but it'll still all be organized :) after all, even MLs say it's just socialism until 'the state withers away' into communism, which is only pedantically different from 'abolish the state' :)