the rachel drama/hack, the pronoun struggle sessions, and now this (most likely) false accusation against beatnik show that there's a lot of asshats with no morality willing to use anything against the site, and we need to get a lot smarter and stop falling for it

    • fuckhaha [any,none/use name]
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      3 years ago

      It may be a result of a capitalist reality, but it is reality nonetheless. Under communism I believe the internet would be different, but as it is, my way is the healthy and happy way to be.

      This site is a content generation machine. The old sub was that, a small content cog part of a larger content machine that was reddit (ptew ptew). Content can be educational, emotionally effecting, humorous; you can be a content creator, doing bits and having arguments. You can try to effect the way the content is generated for the better. But its a reddit clone, and thats just what it is. As a community, it is fatally flawed even moreso than the old forums were back when the internet worked more like that, and even those were probably too flawed to be communities. As a content stream it is ok-to-middling

      • a_blanqui_slate [none/use name, any]
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        3 years ago

        Yep. Treating it as anything else is just setting yourself up for trouble.

        But then again, I do have schizoid personally disorder so ymmv.

      • Kappapillar [comrade/them,undecided]
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        3 years ago

        "That's just the way that it is" is exactly the rhetoric that impedes progress. We have an opportunity to create a community here that is different from Reddit and Twitter. I like the people here, and I don't find that seeing it as a community makes me unhappy. Perhaps viewing it in the way that you are, due to the other spaces from where you've learned this behavior, is what's making you unhappy? I don't want to extrapolate too much and assume what you feel or believe, so please take it with a grain of salt. We want an inclusive and mutually respectable space that treats people as people, so don't be afraid to do the same (:

        • fuckhaha [any,none/use name]
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          3 years ago

          I'm unhappy because daddy used to beat me, it has nothing to do with this website

          Creating an atmosphere of respect and ensuring everyone is comfortable posting here is one thing, and a laudible goal (although it would also be nice to be able to tell people to fuck off). But you want to feel comfortable at the theatre, the audience wants to be able to applaud or withhold applause, and the players want to be able to express their art. It would still be considered wrong if someone thought the characters on stage were real, if they couldn't tell that behind those characters the players may or may not really believe what they are saying.

          • Kappapillar [comrade/them,undecided]
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            3 years ago

            Calling this a ‘community’ is weird and thinking of the people here as real people rather than bleep bloops is recipe for unhappiness and very much teenage behavior

            I meant feeling unhappiness with regards to reading the posts here as messages from people rather than from fictional characters. Man, I'm sorry that your dad used to beat you. That fucking sucks.

            My point is that it's unfair to assume people are actors on a stage playing characters if/when they are real people expressing real thoughts and emotions. It's an unsubstantiated accusation. It's invalidating and alienating.

            Edit: fuck I can't figure out quotations

            • fuckhaha [any,none/use name]
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              3 years ago

              Actors are also real people, and their emotional expression can be taken seriously, but their characters aren't 'real'. Or take a standup comedian, they may be speaking as 'themself' but it is still a comic persona that you see on stage, the character of which is distorted by the medium, and you have to treat it as such. The medium of posting here - partially through the style differences between posting and actually talking, but mostly imo due to anonymity and the screen barrier - creates such a distortion, and the alienation is a result of that distorition, of failing to understand that it is a distorition.

              The thing is, although alienation is a downside, this distortion also has upsides, like for example it allows people to be funnier, more raw, etc.

    • Kappapillar [comrade/them,undecided]
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      3 years ago

      Yeah, that shit is exactly what's wrong with the hellscapes that are Twitter and Facebook. One could draw similarities to how people are way ruder to cars driving on the road until they're confronted with the actual person driving. I don't want ChapoChat to become like that too, so this sort of alienation is harmful.