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After updating my uBlock lists to the latest version the popup no longer appears. Something to try out.
People keep saying this but I guess I'm on the lucky slow end of the rollout because I haven't had my adblock stop working yet.
But they've done this before, it's just a cycle. If I have to, I'll start using a new adblocker, or entirely diffent way to access the videos, once an option becomes available shortly, inevitably. No reason to worry about this long term IMO.
Maybe I've found a definitive solution, because adblocking only works for a few days, until Google noticed it and put contrameasures. In Firefox install Tampermonkey and in it this script
https://greasyfork.org/en/scripts/477725-youtube-iframe-adblocker
In Vivaldi no need of Tampermonkey, download the link to an folder and don't delete it. Open the Extension page in developer mode and drag the script in it. Done
It is an ingenious userscript that helps persistent YouTube viewers bypass the frustrating "Ad blockers are not allowed on YouTube" message. It employs a clever technique of dynamically inserting an iframe player to replace the standard YouTube player. This method effectively circumvents YouTube's ad-blocker detection, allowing for an uninterrupted, ad-free viewing experience even after YouTube's standard measures have been triggered. So you can still use your adblocker without problems.
I would just caution anyone that blocking ads while logged into your Google account is probably a bad idea if you care about still watching videos there. Google will grow more desperate to show tracked ads to users.
The only ling term solution is to seek to watch YouTube e videos in a private way. Freestone is a good start. New piped and individuals look promising as well. I'm still researching a good long term solution.
Front-ends and streaming platforms are several outsite, but Google also is blocking those, its not a solution for a long term. I was recently using FreeTube as a desktop client, but it has become unusable. I recently replaced VLC with SMPlayer, MMplayer like VLC but way better, also FOSS, this allows me to watch, among others, streaming videos from different sites, among others also from YT so far without problems. I also use an extension (FOSS) that allows me to record the audio of the active tab and save it as mp3, that is, with this it does not matter whether it is a music video from YT or from other sources and with this outside of Google's control.
A good option is also IMDB, or better its online service, Odysee, which allows you to import subscriptions and playlists from YT, it is somewhat complicated to do, but it is guided. Odysee is not related to Google, it has a UI similar to YT and a good number of videos of all kinds, many have already moved to this platform. In my opinion it is the best direct alternative to YT.
In any case, at least so far, this userscript works wonderfully and I think it will continue to work, since it prevents YT from discovering that you use an adblocker, not like other anti adblock killers whose script I also have in the Vivaldi blocker list, since these do block the YT detector, which naturally has already been discovered, however this script does not block the YT detector, but surrounds it by putting a "mask" over the video, with which the detector passes underneath without discovering anything.
The risk that YT discovers it and blocks me? Yes it does anyway if I continue using an adblocker and I prefer to suck my elbow before deactivating the ad- and all the other blockers on YT and swallowing all the garbage of ads, clickbaits and the other shit that YT is full of (a single music video, blocked 12 ads and more than 20 trackers and without the Clickbait Remover, YT completely changes the thumbnails it shows, which mostly have nothing to do with the content). No, thanks
Yeah, I definitely agree, and haven't looked into all the options yet. It is pretty logical that they would catch on to stuff like free-tube very quickly. But I still think the only reasonable posture is to view video content anonymously, until google goes the twitter route and demands that you identify yourself to watch a video. They kind of already do that for mature content.
I know, there still videos blocked for NSFW content, where you need to identify you, eg the music video from Harakiri for the Sky - Funeral Dream is flagged as such, but you can still warch it from an other upload, Also not a problem to watch it in Andisearch or SMPlayer. But this filter has nothing to do with the current adblocker problem, age restricted vids in YT are exist since several years.
Google's desperation to show tracked ads is but one vector in the equation which determines longterm viability for watching Youtube ad-free for free. There are also other vectors to consider like the level of obtrusion required to actually effectively adblock-block, and its related effect on the userbase. And also just the level of inconvenience presented by ads, determined by their length, skippability etc.
The proportion of the userbase blocking ads is still relatively negligible, and this is an outcome manufactured by Google toeing the line between too obtrusive and too ineffective. Any measure I can imagine which would actually capture a significant portion of users blocking ads would also significantly skew the balance in favour of obtrusivity, which they would pay for in lost users.
As long as many users are happy to continue being vigilant in blocking ads, IMO this balance will ensure blocking ads will remain feasible.
Long term, google will demand our identity to serve video data to us, even if only out of principle. I just think that service will degrade in the pursuit of more price extraction.
I have a longer term project to decouple my identity and property from online services. Part of the reaso thnat I am also on lemmy in the first place. With google products, it is becoming clear that anonymous use is really the only answer.
In general I would agree, but as it pertains to Youtube adblock blocking - there is no gradual slide into degradation (apart from perhaps to do with the implementation of ads itself, though I'd argue they're less obtrusive now than in their original implementation many years ago).
There is fundamentally no way to adblock-block today which does not involve collecting info in a way that causes obvious privacy concerns. It's not somewhere Google can get to by taking little steps. The adblock-blocking that's been happening to date is easily circumvented. Logically an arms race between adblockers and adblock-blockers will ensue, except in practice it'd be like raising the stakes from a civil war re-enactment to actual nuclear war
Right. That is why I am saying: beocme anonymous now before google demands your identity to watch videos. That is where I believe this is headed.
libreDIRECT firefox extension and then set piped instance to piped.video , it's pret nice
any youtube link or click you do will go to the piped.video "version" instead.
I'm using the Piped YT frontend on Firefox with uBlock and I've not once seen any add pop up. I don't have a Google account but I added a bunch of rss-feeds to my Thunderbird, so I get a message when my favorite creators make a video. This way I'm not bothered by any stupid Google algorithm. Goes to show, YT is best consumed without an account.
Is there something I am missing? I am using uBlock Origin on Firefox and Youtube works the same as always.
As with all changes at large tech companies, this change is being rolled out to a subsection of the whole userbase. As such, if you're not seeing it yet, it might be because you just haven't gotten into the rollout yet.
Or Firefox and uBlock are still managing to beat the countermeasures, who knows.
It's how you boil a frog. They're not gonna back down off of this. They decided a long time ago to maximize profitability at the cost of service degradation.
Rollouts are not made to boil frogs, they are made so that you can test the impact of changes, and crucially, quickly roll undesired changes back. It's a great technique. This is important when you're at Google-scale - any small mistakes will impact millions of people. The only realistic way to handle this is to roll changes out and monitor the changes for negative impacts - stuff like crashes and so on.
I agree that what they're doing is boiling the frog, but rollouts have nothing to do with it.
Started on me today, but it looks like you can just remove the element that contains the message, tho
I've started using Piped but oh my god the fucking buffering is ridiculous
https://github.com/TeamPiped/Piped/wiki/Instances using an other instance from this list works realy fine for me
Because I have a family subscription. YT and YT music for the whole family, means my kids are ad free and managed. I use the heck out of it and can afford it.
I don't pay for Spotify, and with the price hike Disney + is about to get the eye patch treatment.
But I really do use the heck out of YT, so for me it's worth it.
But if you don't see the value, do what you gotta do.
Fair enough, giving money to that corporation just feels very wrong to me. But I have to be fair here, the services Google offers are actually useful.
Not like some other mega-brands that just dick around and do fuck all
I'm going to be super-mega-controversial here, and tell you all how I removed ads on YouTube:
YouTube Premium.
Yes, I realize it's not very common to pay for the services we use these days, but I watch enough YouTube that I though it'd be neat. It is. No ads, except the direct sponsors of the people I actually watch. I only wish that this would make them not also sell my data, and track the shit out me, and all that jazz. I'd like to be the customer, if you'd let me, Alphabet.
No ads, except the direct sponsors of the people I actually watch.
Nah fuck that, those are the most annoying of all the ads. Very very very rarely does a content creator actually incorporate those in the video well, it's just jarring and annoying and I won't pay money to suffer those shitty ads.
I had it pretty bad for several days, having to purge the cache several times but I saw no pop-ups yesterday or the day before that. Hoping that's still the case today
Not sure what’s going to happen with Vivaldi given that the browser is the ad blocker.
