Can we get some relief hype going for a vindicated comrade? Thank god the micro brewing child was an op! Now go scrub your posting history libs.

    • Amos [he/him]
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      4 years ago

      is 'guilty until proven innocent' really the only alternative?

        • Fakename_Bill [he/him]
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          4 years ago

          If siennasae had provided one shred of easily-obtainable evidence that the events she described actually happened (skype logs, pictures of alleged gifts, evidence of police involvement, etc) Beatnik would have been thrown to the wolves. With IRL allegations this type of evidence can be much harder to come up with, but given that most of Beatnik's alleged interactions happened online, this should be easy to obtain and provide.

          Her claims that TC69 changed her password and read her DMs were the final nail in the coffin, as those are impossible for an admin to do. We can't be 100% certain the claims are fabricated, but we can be 98% certain. We haven't violated any principles.

            • GrandAyatollaLenin [he/him,comrade/them]
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              4 years ago

              I still think we shouldn't celebrate it.

              Insulting the accuser and praising the accused is still going to alienate victims. Even if they were false accusations, be an adult and move on.

              It's fine to not take action when there's no reason to. That's what the mods did. However, while these accusations remain unproven, they haven't been completely disproven. Same with the accuser being a troll. There's no solid evidence for that.

              I know we have (had?) some Chapos who had survived sexual violence and I'd like to hear their opinions on the situation.

        • ferristriangle [he/him]
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          4 years ago

          Nah, we're stuck between allowing wreckers to dictate how the community is run, or saying fuck the wreckers.

          I say fuck the wreckers. If this community is going to be slandered off the back of false accusations, then there is no action we could take that would satisfy the wreckers.

          As long as the situation has been handled to the satisfaction of our community and marginalized people/victims still feel safe coming forward with issues, then the mods have done their jobs excellently.

    • Pezevenk [he/him]
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      4 years ago

      We have to take any accusations at face value.

      No we don't, it's literally the opposite.