This makes no sense to me. There's people in the comments literally telling me to go kill myself and that's fine but, me politely disagreeing is worthy of a 30 day ban.
Keep trying, debate pervert. Maybe you can escalate this up to the fediverse Supreme Court.
Empire Files: Emergency Broadcast - Israel's Hospital Massacre & the Gaza Genocide
The pronouns confused me
every fucking time with you people
Oh no not pronouns, those things you use every day already
I haven't given an opinion on your stuff. I just told you what instance davel was from. So...your point doesn't really have legs yet.
Up untill Davel, every single user I got a reply from relating to stuff I said on that thread was either a Hexbear or Lemmygrad user and every user since Davel has been aswell.
What you said was that they were "coming after you"
I'm just making the point of stating that my conversation with you has not been "aggressive" nor has it mentioned the topic at hand. And I'm from hexbear.
I just mean that usually when I say something controversial, the people arguing against that are from all over the place, but in this case the opposition seems to be coming from these two instances almost exclusively. Even in this thread, that's been posted on lemmy.ml there's still a disproportionate amount of Hexbear users replying. I can't say for certain, but it sure feels like they're looking for me rather than just stumbling across this post.
Lol I browse All, I see a thread with lots of comments, I drop in. Nobody's looking for you, get over yourself. Take the L. Sit out your 30 days and ply your debate pervert shit somewhere else in the meantime, the Internet is a huge place.
That still doesn't explain the disproportionate amount of replies from Hexbear and Lemmygrad users. You should see my inbox.
We care about this sort of stuff. More than non-bear/grad users judging by the replies you are recieving.
We like to stick up for each other. It's a shame your community doesn't have that.
I'm not sure what that community would even be. I'm not interested about being surrounded by bunch of yes-men. I want my community to call me out on my bullsht because I'm going to do the same for them.
Well not really. Mostly people are just being mean and/or saying I'm wrong but no one is trying to change my mind. When I made the first post that got me banned I had just woken up and had only skimmed thru the news, but the more time passes and I look into it the more comfortable I feel with my original conclusion. At the moment it seems almost certain that it indeed was a malfuncioning Hamas rocket shot from Gaza strip and there's plenty video evidence to back that up.
How big do you think Hamas rockets are? I assure you they aren't capable of flattening a hospital.
And that video could be anywhere.
You can see my other reply. The hospital is still very much intact because the rocket luckily didn't hit the building but a parking lot. As you said; Hamas rockets aren't capable of flattening a building. If it was JDAM there would be a 15 meter crater on the ground.
Not sure if you got my message, because they banned me from the whole instance now so I'll pm it to you too:
You can see my other reply. The hospital is still very much intact because the rocket luckily didn’t hit the building but a parking lot. As you said; Hamas rockets aren’t capable of flattening a building. If it was JDAM there would be a 15 meter crater on the ground.
If it was JDAM then where are the pictures of the leveled hospital/crater? Where are the pictures of 500 dead people? That's A-grade propaganda material for Hamas so why isn't it all over the internet? All I'm seeing is this picture which judging by the fence and tree is from outside aswell as this with a matching fence, couple burnt cars and some damaged roofing tiles. Ofcourse there's also the video posted by IDF of aerial footage which matches that picture from the parking lot and shows a very much intanct hospital building.
EDIT: Here's a video from that same parking lot. I wonder why they aren't filmin the leveled hospital instead.
EDIT2: Well here's some dead bodies aswell. Not sure if it's related to the same incident, but atleast it's something. Be aware, VERY DISTURBING footage.
Proof you haven't even done the first iota of investigation into the federations you talk the MOST shit about; as if you did, you'd see half the time we're locking horns with each other over who's got the materially correct line. No investigation, no right to speech.
We're active in political threads since we're both explicitly leftist instances (grad is ML, Hexbear is leftist of different stripes). Hexbear doesn't have down votes so if we see something we disagree with, we say something. There's not really a 'downvote and move on' mentality, so you're likely to get multiple users replying to a post.
It’s because you’re so speshul. I actually have your picture on my wall.
...You may want to look into which instances are federated with yours and the instances you post on before the paranoia fully sets in, lol.
"why is it that whenever I post a take that's completely divorced from material reality it's always the materialists who tell me my take is bad?"
Truly one of the mysteries of all time
because it is at best a crank conspiracy theory.
[and yes you should do it]
and yes bombing hospitals does make sense, Israel has done it in the past. In fact, the same hospital was 'warning' bombed just 2 days ago
https://twitter.com/AVHospital/status/1713543149774160099
https://avh.org/content/news-and-events/gaza-hospital-hit-by-israeli-rockets-urgent-evacuation-ordered.html
October 15th:
Yesterday, at 7:00 PM, Al Ahli Arab Hospital in Gaza, which is our partner in the Diagnostic Cancer Treatment Center, was hit by two Israeli rockets. Fortunately, the extent of the damage was limited.
Today, the hospital has received orders from Israeli authorities to evacuate the facility, including patients, staff, and 3,000 Gazan people who have sought shelter within the hospital's premises.
We call the international community and all humanitarian organizations to take action to prevent the evacuation orders for Al Ahli Arab Hospital and the other 22 hospital, as this action poses a significant risk to the lives of numerous patients.
here is a 2014 article regarding Israel bombing hospitals
https://www.amnesty.org/en/latest/news/2014/07/israelgaza-attacks-medical-facilities-and-civilians-add-war-crime-allegations/
The third floor of the Al-Aqsa hospital in Deir al-Balah was struck by Israeli shelling, killing four people and wounding dozens, according to the Gaza Ministry of Health spokesperson.
“Today’s attack on the Al-Aqsa hospital is the latest in a series of attacks on and near medical facilities in Gaza, which have been struggling to cope with thousands of injured people since the Israeli offensive began on 8 July,” said Philip Luther, Director of the Middle East and North Africa Programme at Amnesty International.
just because you say your dumb shit politely, doesn't make it any less of the massive turd it is
I mean, we do kind of enjoy pointing and laughing at the dude who keeps smugly shitting on the floor.
Lol. You're the one dedicating any real time to this.
I do wish I saw what your removed comment was. Did you remove it out of embarrassment or did a mod have to clean up your shit?
im devastated you used a fake number against me
I have fallen totally and completely, sending in resignations to my party atm
If you were smart enough to know what irony was, you would know why that picture is so funny.
I just wanted to make you reread that sentence you wrote a few hours ago
Yikes, do you wanna pull out your skull calipers while you’re at it?
I'd never seen it in such detail. The majesty of the poop, the subtle demarcation of the balls. The stylised X butthole? Tre magnifique
Blindingly obvious to everyone else except me, apparently.
Please educate me. I believe I've laid out my argument quite clearly. What is it that I'm wrong about exactly and what are you basing that on?
The argument for it being Israel:
- Israel has complete air superiority
- Israel is conducting a bombing campaign against Gaza
- Israel has threatened to attack hospitals
- Israel has previously bombed hospitals
- Israel has previously bombed this exact hospital
- The audio and visual characteristics of the bomb and the damage caused (captured by multiple, independent observers) match with a JDAM guided bomb, which Israel has already used
- Israeli sources first claimed the hospital was a Hamas base or had Hamas tunnels or arms caches, before rapidly rolling back their position to "we didn't do it"
- It is clearly in Israel's interest to kill Palestinians and destroy Palestinian infrastructure, especially medical services and supplies, because they are conducting a genocide
The argument for it being Hamas:
- Israel says it was
Reddit, or rather
, is controlled by the US security state, so r/combatfootage - which banned all combat footage from Palestinian viewpoints - is not a reliable source. The idea that a 'rocket piece' could accidentally fall on a hospital and kill 500 people (a number reported by a first-hand MSF witness) is laughably absurd. If a Hamas rocket could cause this kind of damage, Tel Aviv would look like the surface of the fucking moon. It was OBVIOUSLY another genocidal act by the entity continuously and overtly engaged in genocidal acts. To think otherwise requires you to want to fall for their propaganda. No one in full possession of their faculties looking at the facts dispassionately could possibly conclude it was anything else.If it was JDAM then where are the pictures of the leveled hospital/crater? Where are the pictures of 500 dead people? That's A-grade propaganda material for Hamas so why isn't it all over the internet? All I'm seeing is this picture which judging by the fence and tree is from outside aswell as this with a matching fence, couple burnt cars and some damaged roofing tiles. Ofcourse there's also the video posted by IDF of aerial footage which matches that picture from the parking lot and shows a very much intanct hospital building.
EDIT: Here's a video from that same parking lot. I wonder why they aren't filmin the leveled hospital instead.
EDIT2: Well here's some dead bodies aswell. Not sure if it's related to the same incident, but atleast it's something. Be aware, VERY DISTURBING footage.
Well I was gonna bother responding, then I noticed your account was created five days ago and has done nothing but both-sides this conflict
Have a very shitty rest of your shift officer
I don't mind a disagreement. Not at all. Infact I enjoy a good debate as long as both parties are doing it in good faith. This thread isn't about that.
My suspicion lies with the entity which has air supremacy and has been dropping shitloads of bombs already. It's not surprising that people like you will contort into any position which suits your interests.
please be aware you’re often a very argumentative person
I'm well aware of that. It's the reason I'm on Lemmy on the first place. I love a good, long debate but I still try and be polite and listen to the counter-arguments and engage with what people are saying instead of attacking them as a person.
debate my asshole out of killing itself with this absurdly large dragon sex toy
B-but I just want to have a civil debate about why genocide is ok, why won’t anyone be nice to me? Wyahhhhh, such toxicity! People are so small minded if they can’t accept ethnic cleansing :(
There's a user in this thread calling us the genocide deniers while Israel unceasingly and unrepentantly destroys Gaza and its people. Like. No self awareness. No historical awareness. Just 'Oh I have a more nuanced view of the situation'. Nuance my fucking gooch.
It's only ever the whites going to bat for Israel's commission of genocide, too-- why? Because what Israel's doing is 1:1 with what the colonizer pilgrims did to America. So no, I am never going to support that; because given my way, my lineage NEVER would've been stolen by crackers in the first place. I'd rather still fuckin be Afrikan than have to be lumped in with these murderous settlers.
Is pineapple good on pizza? <— a debate
Are human rights guaranteed to all humans? <— a fucking ghoulish question that you deserve to be mocked for “debating”
Social sanction has been a part of human community dynamics since we first progressed past grunts and gestures; and you're gonna ask a sealioning question like that.
Have you asked the same question about your disingenuous hand wringing? 🤔
You need to dumb it down a bit if you want me to understand
You can’t set me up like that, I’m tapping out. Someone else explain basic human decency to this person, plz.
Join an instance you believe in. If it happens to enough people they will move on.
