Captain America: Brave New World is coming out in 2024 (next year), and the MCU is introducing the character, Sabra. In case you didn't click the link, Sabra is an Israeli superhero that basically wears the Israel flag as her costume.

This conflict could delay the movie since marvel likes calling their Captain America movies "political thrillers". I am so mad why would Hamas do this. Now, Marvel has to restructure their film so that it's not outdated. Sadly, the budget is going to go through the roof now since they have to add like an hour-and-a-half of CGI of Captain Israel going 9/11 on buildings and hospitals in Gaza.

I just want the fighting to end so we can go back to how things were before, capekino paradise.

  • BelieveRevolt [he/him]
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    in the comics, she is a member of the Mossad, and many of the Arab characters she interacts with are portrayed as misogynistic, antisemitic and violent

    shocked-pikachu

    • GottiGoFast [none/use name]
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      "She was raised on a special kibbutz run by the Israeli government after her power manifested. Ruth was the first superhuman agent to serve with the Mossad (the Israeli secret service). She became a police officer in addition to serving as a government agent."

      what-the-hell

      • SerLava [he/him]
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        In late 2024 the woman f-15 eagle pilot with the most hospital kills in the IDF is going to be nicknamed Sabra and all the little girls are going to look up to her

        • the_post_of_tom_joad [any, any]
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          Uhhh somehow this reminded me of some old US propaganda...

          what was the name of the woman the US used for propaganda in the iraq war a billion years ago?

          Remember the one where they made a story about how she was a war hero and she was held prisoner in a hospital so we 'rescued' her in an operation but it turned out she was just being treated for her injuries? you remember her name? Im gonna see if i can dig that up (even tho it's not super relevant)

      • BelieveRevolt [he/him]
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        Ruth was the first superhuman agent to serve with the Mossad (the Israeli secret service)

        Now this is diversity

      • SacredExcrement [any, comrade/them]
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        Super soldier turned super cop for apartheid state

        What issue has the part where she laments not being able to fight in the Boer wars?

  • GottiGoFast [none/use name]
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    Forgot to add this in, but for like a year the title was actually "Captain America: New World Order"

    Funniest shit, it was speculated they changed the title because of...antisemitic connotations agony

    • StellarTabi [none/use name]
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      I understand how Brave New World will be perceived as functionally less anti-Semitic, but do either of these titles (New World Order) even make sense as references to the MCU? I might have only watched 1 or 2 old MCU movie in the last 5 years.

      • StellarTabi [none/use name]
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        I only remember 2 things, first is that grimdark Grimace snaps his fingers and everybody becomes sand, also the one where they (hopefully unintentionally) rehabilitated nazis by saying "no actually the bad stuff was hydra and some guy who rips his face off for no reason".

        • Saeculum [he/him, comrade/them]
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          I don't think they ever suggest in the movies that Hydra were the driving force behind the Nazi's atrocities.

          If anything, the Hydra plot in later films outright states that the US government had been run not just by fascists, but by actual Nazis since at least the end of WWII.

      • kristina [she/her]
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        soypoint-1 we referenced a book we never read! we're so smart! soypoint-2

  • SUPAVILLAIN@lemmygrad.ml
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    Death to her, and death to Captain America too. Only shit I give a damn about out of Marvel is the X-Men, and when it became apparent they couldn't be used to sell wars to the consumption-poisoned, the propagandists at the top decided they'd bounce their asses and relegate them back to comics-only for these cracker-assed 'Avengers'. Man fuck out of here; I'd rather watch DC at this point. Capeshit has gotten so depressingly obvious about its Pentagon funding that I went back to raw bloody gore-horror.

    • GottiGoFast [none/use name]
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      She's a mutant so don't be surprised they make her an important part initially for the MCU's X-Men.

      I can see exactly how they could do it and I hate it.

      • SUPAVILLAIN@lemmygrad.ml
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        No no no no no no no no. Keep that genocidal ghoul out of the X-Men. If they have Magneto 'finding solidarity' with her somehow, I'm throwing out my Brotherhood of Mutants stuff and finally writing off the LAST of what I can tolerate out of Marvel, no cap. I'm not gon bullshit, that's the kind of soft-ass lib shit Xavier would go for.

        • Smeagolicious [they/them]
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          Magneto 'finding solidarity' with her

          Oh no you motherfucker, you’ve made me think of this timeline ohhhh I hate it. You’d better not have lathe’d this into reality…

          • SUPAVILLAIN@lemmygrad.ml
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            real talk where did the 'lathe' meme come from bc my generation refers to that as 'manifesting' something into existence do we like-- have existential lathes to shape the flow of existence or some shit now, so we're not on some pagan 'as i will it' type shit anymore?

        • kristina [she/her]
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          Lmao we both immediately thought of Magneto, that's how we know it's going to happen

          • SUPAVILLAIN@lemmygrad.ml
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            I went to Magneto because I've always been a Magneto stan; he always felt the more serious about his movement between Magno and Xavier-- and Xavier has always been prone to soft-hearted fuckery that comes back to bite the mutants in the ass. I expect Xavier to get it wrong at first blush; but what I won't abide is Magneto getting it wrong-- because he should be everything that stands against the mockery that Zionism makes of his struggle and history.

      • kristina [she/her]
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        I'm sure it'll start with Magneto monologuing about how great she is

    • kristina [she/her]
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      DC animation has been really good lately, totally recommend Harley Quinn

      • newmou [he/him]
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        Jfc

        "Sabra and Shatila are the names of two Palestinian camps in Lebanon where, from Sept. 16 to Sept. 18 in 1982, a Lebanese Christian militia massacred hundreds of residents. Israeli troops had allowed the militia to enter the camps, and Israeli commanders issued no orders to stop the carnage."

        • Redcuban1959 [any]
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          The Sabra and Shatila massacre refers to the 1982 killings of between 460 and 3,500 civilians—mostly Palestinians and Lebanese Shias—in the city of Beirut during the Lebanese Civil War.

          Sabra is a character appearing in American comic books published by Marvel Comics. Created by writer Bill Mantlo and artist Sal Buscema, the character first appeared in Incredible Hulk #250 (August 1980).

      • kristina [she/her]
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        Hummus should be like twinks, smooth and will fuck your ass up

        • SUPAVILLAIN@lemmygrad.ml
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          Where are y'all finding these twink tops y'all talk about? On god every twink I've ever known has been a bottom and I eventually had to stop fuckin with them because they were seeming always either on some fetishist shit or had the three no's at the top of their grindr profile

  • BeamBrain [he/him]
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    Imagine naming your superhero after a brand of hummus

    • GottiGoFast [none/use name]
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      "Until 2010, the Strauss Group (bought Sabra in 2005) stated on their English-language website that the company donated food packages to the Golani Brigade of the Israel Defense Forces."

        • ProfessorOwl_PhD [any]
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          If you have a blender it's super easy to make your own from canned chickpeas. Just add a bit of salt, cumin, tahini, and lemon juice, and then any other herbs, spices, or foodstuffs you fancy. I'm a fan of allspice, chilli flakes, and a splash of worcestershire sauce.

          Edit: also if you can find Kala chana (black chickpeas) I personally think they make much tastier hummus than regular chickpeas. Might have to look in world foods type places to find them though.

          • krolden@lemmy.ml
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            Yeah I've been doing that for a while and its way better than any I've got ten from a store unless its some Mediterranean place. I like caramelized onions and roqsted garlic with everything bagel seasoning

  • krolden@lemmy.ml
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    Also I just want to say all this marvel shit is so low effort in terms of writing. How hard is it to come up with original stories and characters without scraping the sides of the comic book churn?

  • UlyssesT [he/him]
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    Sounds like a plotline that'd fit nicely with a different superhero. homelander

        • SUPAVILLAIN@lemmygrad.ml
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          Ohhhhhhhhhhh I've seen this like 4 times now. I physically need one of the MK1 pre-battle banters between Omni-Man and Homelander to be the Death Battle opening, somehow.

  • Pluto [he/him, he/him]
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    They want to be serious with the title but, like, not serious in the actual movie.

  • GeorgeZBush [he/him]
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    God this movie might be a new level of lib nerd redditor cringe, which I didn't even think was possible at this late stage of the MCU. Imagine a scene with Sabra spouting epic Whedonisms while beating the shit out of Durka Durka Jihad caricatures.

  • frogbellyratbone_ [e/em/eir, any]
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    yah i mean fucking hamas ruined paragliding i can't strap my lawn mower to my back with a parachute go on and float around my neighborhood anymore without some white redneck screaming HUMMUS at me and shooting at me