Canada's Parliament just voted to declare it a genocide. https://www.cbc.ca/news/politics/uighur-genocide-motion-vote-1.5922711 And I've been seeing a lot of conflicting takes on it on twitter and here. From what I can gather from researching the main issue is lack of indication of full on genocide there, but there also seems to be a fair amount of evidence that these camps do exist. I fail to see how that is "good" as people on this site appear to be indicating?

  • Yun [he/him]
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    4 years ago

    Camps exist (apparently no longer in use as all students supposedly graduated a year ago).

    De-radicalization education and vocational training are good ways of dealing with a very serious terrorism issue the region was dealing with.

    At worst, profiling, surveillance, and using assessment criteria that gets false positives are bad but nowhere near genocide.

    We don't know the exact conditions of the camps, how many students attended, or the percentage of those who were forced to go vs those who attended voluntarily.

    All the claims wrt forced labour, forced sterilizations, cultural erasure, and terrible conditions that I've seen are based on sketchy witness testimonies or speculation being passed off as fact by sketchy organizations (ties to FLG, US State, and/or military industrial complex) with Adrian Zenz and ASPI being two of the more prominent sources. Speaking of which this is a good article that goes into detail on what the Canadian Parliament based their decision on: https://www.thecanadafiles.com/articles/subcommittee-report-declaring-uighur-genocide-dominated-by-researchers-and-groups-funded-by-cia-cut-out-national-endowment-for-democracy

    At the end of the day, they're now calling for bans on imports from Xinjiang https://twitter.com/stevenchase/status/1363985734496100356 which does absolutely nothing except to make things worse for the working class citizens of the province.

    The Canadian journalist and communist party member Q Anthony has spent the past few days talking about this on his twitter where he addresses a lot of the common talking points on this issue: https://twitter.com/andraydomise