If not a whattaboutism, it belies a brainworm that media is inherently untrustworthy because they've been subjected to western MSM their whole life. It's like how many burgers are against "big government" because they're used to being fucked raw by the US government and think that's a quality shared by all governments as opposed to theirs specifically. It just does not compute for some people that media exists that isn't simply lying though their teeth.
Is there a government/media outlet that does not try to consciously or unconsciously influence stories/news to be more positive towards their beliefs?
Of course there is a difference between "lying through your teeth" and "trying to make something sound better than they are", but I feel like both is lying. You mention "western MSM" and that it's "simply lying through their teeth", but is that really all they're doing? From what I experienced, no, there are some things of course that are straight up complete fabrication, but most of the stuff they put out is real in some way, just in varying degrees of warped to make themselves look better. They can't always, not even most of the time, get away with straight fabrication. Depends on the organization of course.
I'm just genuinely wondering if "non-western MSM" is really better? Which one? I'm from Europe, not the US, so of course I see one-sided coverage a lot as well, but I'm not completely blinded by Murdoch news or whatever. I'm not consuming much, if any, news media in general, most often trying to learn about topics through Wikipedia or academic books on the topic, which obviously can be biased as well.
If not a whattaboutism, it belies a brainworm that media is inherently untrustworthy because they've been subjected to western MSM their whole life. It's like how many burgers are against "big government" because they're used to being fucked raw by the US government and think that's a quality shared by all governments as opposed to theirs specifically. It just does not compute for some people that media exists that isn't simply lying though their teeth.
Is there a government/media outlet that does not try to consciously or unconsciously influence stories/news to be more positive towards their beliefs?
Of course there is a difference between "lying through your teeth" and "trying to make something sound better than they are", but I feel like both is lying. You mention "western MSM" and that it's "simply lying through their teeth", but is that really all they're doing? From what I experienced, no, there are some things of course that are straight up complete fabrication, but most of the stuff they put out is real in some way, just in varying degrees of warped to make themselves look better. They can't always, not even most of the time, get away with straight fabrication. Depends on the organization of course.
I'm just genuinely wondering if "non-western MSM" is really better? Which one? I'm from Europe, not the US, so of course I see one-sided coverage a lot as well, but I'm not completely blinded by Murdoch news or whatever. I'm not consuming much, if any, news media in general, most often trying to learn about topics through Wikipedia or academic books on the topic, which obviously can be biased as well.