Yeahh, agreed. Tbh all the vegan agitation here is what made me decide to stop eating meat. In the west, it's just taken for granted that animal slaughter is good and natural and that animals are beneath us and so they deserve their fate. It's completely fucked. I hadn't thought about it and how inseparable animal liberation is from all liberation from oppressive systems until I came here.

I think vegans, in the same way that communists do, can sometimes fail to meet people where they're at, though. Carnism is so ingrained in people's thinking and the way food is produced that it will be a long and difficult project to see carnism's end.

"Commandism is wrong in any type of work, because in overstepping the level of political consciousness of the masses and violating the principle of voluntary mass action it reflects the disease of impetuosity. Our comrades must not assume that everything they themselves understand is understood by the masses. Whether the masses understand it and are ready to take action can be discovered only by going into their midst and making investigations. If we do so, we can avoid commandism..." -Mao Zedong, "On Coalition Government" (April 24, 1945)