Even other neurodivergent people will enable behaviors that trigger RSD, maybe because it doesn't hurt them as bad, or they've learned to cope with it better, or whatever. But anyway, we aren't approaching the problem of RSD radically enough. We have to change the way we communicate with people on a fundamental level. Anti-ableism isnt just about not using certain naughty words. For neurodivergent people to be safe in society, it requires a completely radical rewiring of how communication works. I don't know how that will work exactly. I understand that sometimes it causes problems with intersectionality (though I think the way people just throw the anti-ableism side of that discussion out the window completely is fucking disgusting, again this is something that even neurodivergent people will do, because intersection is complicated and people don't like complicated things so they jump to one side or the other and for some reason ableism always loses out in those clashses) but I still think its incredibly important.

  • SpookyVanguard64 [he/him]M
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    3 years ago

    this is very one-sided and really isn’t fair

    If it isn't too much to ask, could you provide the other side of the story? As rules 2 and 3.5 in this community point out, people don't always interpret the same event the same way, especially if they're ND. So even if autismdragon isn't providing the full story, I'm assuming they're acting in good faith and telling their side of the story as close to accurate as they personally experienced it.

    people on the admin team have RSD as well (or other instances of neurodivergence) and that needs to be respected too

    This is true, but not everyone experiences their disabilities in the same way, and just because some of the people on the mod team also experience RSD doesn't make them immune from criticism on this issue if they acted wrongly. Like I said, please provide the other side of the story if the version we have isn't accurate, but from what autismdragon said, they asked for a fairly reasonable accommodation to make their RSD more manageable and were explicitly denied that accommodation by the mod team.

    • emily [she/her,they/them]
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      3 years ago

      hi, okay so I was scrolling through chacha and didn't notice which community I was in, which is my bad. serious messages of harassment and abuse were left out of that story, which resulted in two people in a state of crisis trying to figure out how to communicate. I just wanted to point this out because some of the ableist accusations my friend is receiving is unfortunate, since she's trying her absolute best, is also ND, and had to deal mentally and emotionally with that as well.

      (I promise, I did mean that in good faith, but the constant accusations are harmful for both sides)

      • SpookyVanguard64 [he/him]M
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        3 years ago

        hi, okay so I was scrolling through chacha and didn’t notice which community I was in, which is my bad

        Thanks for the level headed response. I checked your profile, saw that you weren't subbed here and I was absolutely prepared to tell you to fuck off if you overstepped any boundaries lol.

        As for the rest of what you said, I think it's best for everyone to disengage from this situation for a bit to calm down and collect themselves before addressing this again. I think it's also best to stay out directly engaging with autismdragon (especially if you're NT). Not saying you don't have anything to add to the matter, but due to differences in interpretations and experiences it can lead to a lot of misunderstandings and miscommunications if you're not careful. Instead I'd contact one of the mods here in the ND comm and see if they'd be willing to act as a mediator on this issue. Since both sides involve ND people, I think it's best to let someone who's also ND figure this out since they'd be better able to understand where each side is coming from.

        • emily [she/her,they/them]
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          3 years ago

          understood. just want to clarify here and say that I am ND. idk, been getting accused of being NT a lot with all of this and it doesn't sit particularly well with me

          • autismdragon [he/him, they/them]
            hexagon
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            3 years ago

            I'm sorry for that. Wish you had said so earlier but still, I shouldn't be assuming. I just jump to that when I feel under attack.

          • SpookyVanguard64 [he/him]M
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            3 years ago

            Good to know. I saw you weren't subbed here, and while I never took that as a sign that you were definitely NT, it did make me suspect that you were, so thanks for clearing that you are in fact ND.

        • autismdragon [he/him, they/them]
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          3 years ago

          For the record, she is right that I left out some harassing DMs/abuse of the report system that I levied at the admin who originally upset me. This happened after the first incident. I apologize for that.