I fucking told you hoes that we have to talk to Chuds and I got eaten alive with a dull knife in the comments. Adam Curtis on latest chapo closes with an ill description of why we must, if our intent to change the world is genuine.

Yes, yes, vindication is a self-oriented fantasy that obscures the truth, I fucking know. But still, happy to shove in your collective face.... also please think about it

    • 3rdPartisan [none/use name]
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      4 years ago

      Let’s say your car is dented and needs paint, you can afford only one of these separate repairs at the moment, which is first?

        • 3rdPartisan [none/use name]
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          4 years ago

          But it also needs an oil change... kidding, kidding. the metaphor sucks but I’m interested in how social influence and outcome is structured re cause/effect. I liked someone’s comment here about “upstream/downstream” relationships. It’s a correlation and/or causation type problem.

          To this specific point about the left embrace of the LGBT community: this is a perfect example for the conundrum of whether to start with near and achievable goals, or to start with the hardest project first? That was the car bit, but it only addresses the Order Of Operations and misses the more interesting point of which is more directly beneficial?

          Which better improves the lives of the LGBT community: a slower gain with fewer chuds, or widespread success with those who are much closer to justice?

          Which is greater, 1/1000 of a mile, or 160% of a meter? No unpaid labor, they’re the same.

          That’s still an imperfect unpacking, I’m not sure they are the same. The cloudy part is which approach is more effective at starting any run-away cascade effects? Which is more energy efficient? Which is more effective?

          I don’t think it’s knowable.

          Curtis doesn’t speak to any of this though, doesn’t hold the chud up as some key demo either, his point, I think, is just talk to everyone, chuds included