The slide's authenticity was confirmed by a Navy spokesperson, who cautioned that it was not meant to be an in-depth analysis.
The slide shows that Chinese shipyards have a capacity of about 23.2 million tons compared to less than 100,000 tons in the U.S., making Chinese shipbuilding capacity more than 232 times greater than that of the U.S.
The slide also shows the "battle force composition" of the countries' two navies side-by-side, which includes "combatant ships, submarines, mine warfare ships, major amphibious ships, and large combat support auxiliary ships." The ONI estimated that China had 355 such naval vessels in 2020 while the U.S. had 296. The disparity is expected to continue to grow every five years until 2035, when China will have an estimated 475 naval ships compared to 305-317 U.S. ships.
Another section of the slide provides an estimate on the percentage each country allocates to naval production in its shipyards, with China garnering roughly 70% of its shipbuilding revenue from naval production, compared to about 95% of American shipbuilding revenue.
Because of China's centrally planned economy, the country is able to control labor costs and provide subsidies to its shipbuilding infrastructure, allowing the Chinese to outbid most competitors around the world and dominate the commercial shipping industry, Sadler said.
Alternative title - "Central planning is more efficient than markets" confirms US Navy
That would require China’s military to not be a joke
remind me, what's the name of the USA's hypersonic missile?
The US has tons of ICBMs and has been testing the LRHW for a years now. Short range hypersonic missiles is cutting edge tech is extremely difficulty to use accurately. If you think China’s version is much of a threat to the US military I’ve got a bridge to sell you.
ICBMs are a different class from hypersonics, you mediocre dunce
Ableism? We can be more creative with our insults here
Yeah true, I'm at a pretty low level of consciousness today, I'm open to suggestions
Me too, I'd just go for ignorant jackass or something
I apologize for the toxicity, I've edited in some funnier and less bigoted insults, if I've overlooked anything I'll edit that too. Good calls on your part, no disrespect intended. Except to that ignorant jackass, lol
Are you illiterate? They asked for a US hypersonic missile which an ICBM literally is. That’s why I specified “short range” in the next sentence you dumbfuck
You're terminally dense. A hypersonic missile is capable of high-G maneuvering and self propulsion in the terminal phase of flight. An ICBM is capable of neither of those things, you're just dead fucking wrong. Pack it up you donkey, you don't know what the fuck you're talking about.
Propulsion system of Russian hypersonic missiles in the terminal phase: scramjets
Propulsion system of an ICBM warhead in the terminal phase: ???
Just give it up dipshit, be a grown up and take the L
A hypersonic missile is literally what it’s called. A missile that can reach speeds over Mach 5. Arguing semantics just makes you look like a fucking idiot.
exactly what you're doing by pretending people use "hypersonic missile" to refer to ballistic ICBMs, and it worked!
They are different things, do you really hate being wrong about little things like this so much you just cover your years and scream lalaalaalalaaa
lol pretty fun way to say failing over and over again. :cope:
Well unlike China the US prefers to prove that their tech works before trying to brag about it.
lmao, like the trillion dollar plane that can't fly in the rain? go yank it to Top Gun some more, Michael Bay Jr.
the US military is the most expensive joke ever told in history. all it does is starve Americans, burn fossil fuels, and massacre unarmed civilians.
The F-35 can literally fly through the rain without a problem. Training safety restrictions doesn’t change the fact that it’s the most advanced fighter jet in the world.
I’m not sure I’d call the most powerful and technologically advanced military force in human history a joke, but you do lol
the US hasn't won a war since it allied with the Soviets, who proceeded to do all the heavy lifting. ever since it's been loss after loss, while financing and showing little treat brains like you movies of magic laser soldiers and video games where you can bleep bloop all the baddies with super cool star trek guns. which you have decided is more important than the US losing every war for 50+ years.
the US military is as technologically advanced as a Tesla. in that it's expensive, kills children, is extremely heavy, starts fires that can't be extinguished, and has an excellent PR program... which you seem to have swallowed completely.
That is a whole lot of stupid packed into one comment.. The internet seems to be giving you brain rot please go touch some grass.
You're the one fighting it out in our instance loser
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nazis loved their wonder weapons too
China: "Knock knock."
USS Ronald Reagan: "Who's there?"
China: "Dong Feng missile."
USS Ronald Reagan: "Dong Feng Missile wh-"
Explosions
Dong Feng Missle: Misses by 27 miles
USS Ronald Reagan: Made in China lol
another boomer stuck in the 1980s
The joke is still relevant today
it wasn't even relevant ten years ago. stop buying the absolute cheapest shit available, that's why you think Chinese stuff is junk.
western chauvinists really think they can increasingly offshore all their production for forty years with no material consequences
(paying a quarter of what a properly made thing should cost) damn this chinese stuff is always garbage, the problem must be china
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at least in the audio and photography worlds, the implausibly cheap Chinese stuff turns out to be perfectly serviceable more often than not these days
shut the fuck up redditor
Death to America
Yikes
Zoinks!
Made in America!
Chinese buildings are made of cardboard and the missiles are made of tin foil cuz life is cheap in the east. These stupid fucking tankies removed China too much to understand that
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Yea I guess it is kind of embarrassing to just effortlessly mow down helpless peasant soldiers. But if you think that was some kind of challenge for the US military you are laughably naive.
the yankees left north korea of their own accord, they weren't getting their asses handed to them or anything. they kept fighting at the 38th parallel for 2 years because uncle sam just didn't feel like advancing. only americans harbor such backwards superiority complexes towards asian peoples that kicked their ass
Yea Uncle Sam shoulda escalated the war killing millions of more Koreans instead of resolving it peacefully….
I swear the anti-American circle jerk has given you people brain rot.
"resolving it peacefully"????
you arrogant, ignorant slime it ISNT FUCKING RESOLVED. a state of war exists between the Koreas with a ceasefire, not a peace treaty. the US dropped more munitions on Korea during this "de-escalation" than in the entire pacific theater of WW2. 1.2 million civilians were killed by the united states in the north, to this day the US imposes sanctions on essential goods to the DPRK, trying and during the 90s succeeding in starving their people. you talk about peace and Korean lives while defending the singular obstacle to peace and human wellfare in Korea, read a fucking book and become less of a monster
Yes a ceasefire is peaceful compared to full blown war you fucking moron. The only thing keeping NK a complete shit hole is themselves and China.
It truly takes a special kind of stupid to think the DPRK is the victim here.
the full blown war did not stop when the US was forced back from the north by the Chinese and Koreans. 2 more years that you are somehow failing to perceive of warfare on the 38th parallel and indiscriminate bombing of civilian targets in north korea. two years of endless bombing of every fucking building the US airforce could find, killing hundreds of thousands of innocent people.
oh no, history stops existing the moment the US stops actively bombing you, how could destroying their country possibly affect them after the fact. why would the US bans on exports to a country they blew up all the fucking factories in affect their well-being. and why are the Koreans so rude to America after all this?
The full blown war stopped when they agreed on a ceasefire… the US didn’t bomb North Korea after that, the hell are you going about?
South Korea was devastated after the war as well, yet they’re a thriving modern country today. The US is still technically at war with NK so why the hell would they trade with their enemies?
Probably because they chose an ass backwards authoritarian regime that makes their lives miserable up and to this day. Yet South Korea is one of the most pro-American countries in the world, weird how that happens huh lol
the shocking confidence of someone who doesn't have the barest outline of the subject repeating the canned lines they learned in what, middle school? like its fucking gospel. you literally can't follow what you said in this comment chain, your first response to me was asserting the lack of US progress after being defeated by China and Korea in the North was out of a desire for peace. i have refuted this with the evidence of warfare continuing for two years after that and now you're acting like this fact is inadmissable.
and is there anything different in say, who the south was allowed to trade with in contrast to the north? any country with military bases in the south that gave it a lot of economic aid perhaps?
Lmao I think you’re just arguing with yourself at this point. Do you think there was 2 years of fighting after the ceasefire or something? Nothing I said was outside of literal historical records, but I guess if you view recorded history as “gospel” I can understand why you are so historically inept.
Yea, people they weren’t at war with genius. Like holy shit a child would have better understanding of geopolitics
you didn't know the war didn't end after the US was removed from the north at the beginning of this thread, or you profoundly misunderstood the character of the later stages of the war. now you're attempting to cover for this by claiming i don't grasp the chronology and moving around 2 years of warfare i was never confused about the location of. check my first comment, lmao dork
what i want to know is what makes someone so fundamentally incurious and foolish that when they discover something they thought was true might be untrue, instead of investigating or listening to people eager to educate them, they dig in their heels and deploy all the tricks in their (quite insubstantial) rhetorical arsenal to insist upon the falsehood. it's okay to be wrong about things, it won't kill you
You’re arguing with yourself again lol
Never once did I say the war ended when the US was getting pushed back. The war “ended” with the signing of the armistice and it’s been a ceasefire ever since. The Korean War timeline is not that complicated.
you know this isn't going to work on anyone who can read, but whatever you need to write to protect your fragile baby ego
Yeah only stupid people could possibly think that the targets of an indiscriminate bombing campaign that killed hundreds of thousands of civilians are victims at all.
Like, fuck all the way off you chauvinistic freak.
We’re talking about post war, pay attention dipshit.
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Yea I guess if being educated with reality is a hivemind count me in.
Wish someone dropped 1.2 million tons of bombs on the blast shield that is your dense skull
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Also with little to no real world military experience.
The US would just cut of China from the rest of the world and starve them out. No need for a land war.
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If something drastic enough to get the US to go to war with China happens, the rest of the world (minus the usual authoritarian regimes) would absolutely go along with that.
But.. outside of a Tom Clancy novel a full blown US China war will likely never happen since it would be economic suicide for all involved.
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The literal authoritarian regimes… China, Russia, NK
Chinas manufacturing has been on a steady decline for years, South East Asia has already proven they are capable and willing to pick up after China.
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You people sure don’t like it when you get a dose of reality. Try being informed instead of following internet circlejerks.
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lol what ever helps you sleep at night. The irony could kill a horse
You live in a propaganda bubble so thick you can't even see how deluded you are, you're truly pathetic. And racist. Fuck off
Lmao the “And racist” part at the end is the cherry on top. Truly amazing how willfully delusional people can be.
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lol what
That would cause the US to starve itself long before China even felt it.
Do you think the US relies on Chinese food imports? The US is absolutely self sustainable with food. The country with a billion people is going to starve well before anyone else.
Cool, that’s food checked off. Now what about manufacturing?
Also, the same could be said for China, do you think China relies on US food imports?
Both sides would be pretty fucked when it comes to manufacturing. Both sides would just adapt tho.
China does rely on US and global imports. They’re a net importer and it’s been getting worse in recent years.
This is why everything in your house says "made in China", right? because they have no manufacturing capacity?
What? Who said they have no manufacturing capacity?
Okay, got it, great bit! You really had me going haha
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I see some of your other arguments about inexperience in a different reply. Yeah I see what you're driving at, they haven't been out there picking fights with smaller countries since WW2. Either way this is a country with a GDP about 67% the size of the US GDP (vs #3 Germany that is 6x smaller). It has 3x the population. It is the world's manufacturing center and apparently has much much greater capacity for shipbuilding. Meanwhile the US and the rest of the countries who would likely align with them have forfeited their industrial capacity to China in favor of service economies. China's military inexperience is probably the least relevant input into the outcome. If there's a war with China it will be long, brutal and fought on China's doorstep - an awful long way from the US. They have similar technology and much greater manufacturing potential. This isn't a winnable situation by the US. China won't go the way of Japan and run short on resources.
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Instead they’ve probably been training for a much larger fight. NATO doctrine at this point is mostly geared around asymmetric warfare against a much poorer opponent. Like we’ve seen how Ukrainian troops given NATO training end up just switching back to their own doctrine.
The PLA on the other hand is concerned with two things: defense against the West and maybe recapturing Taiwan, which would also involve fighting the West.
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