I feel like I had some success talking to a couple friends about it recently. I started by talking about China's foreign policy and how it's so much better than that of the US. When we got into China's domestic issues, I emphasized the fact that there's very little I can do (as an American) about them even if I agree there's problems. I didn't get anybody to agree with China good, but I got agreement that the US should pressure its allies like the Saudis and Israelis before trying to do anything about China, which is largely out of our control (and ofc deal with our own domestic issues). I'd say, challenge blatant falsehoods while otherwise being flexible on what people come away with.
I haven't breached the subject of DPRK, but I went off talking about the history of Iran and Operation Ajax, which certainly made me look at things from a different perspective. I even told the story to my chud parents and they didn't shut me down, at least. I think providing historical context is essential, and fortunately you can ground everything in historical facts and its distant enough that people don't feel directly challenged by it.
Works better with people you know IRL, IME. In any case, don't feel like you have to get them all the way to "China good" or it's a failure, just take what you can get.
I feel like I had some success talking to a couple friends about it recently. I started by talking about China's foreign policy and how it's so much better than that of the US. When we got into China's domestic issues, I emphasized the fact that there's very little I can do (as an American) about them even if I agree there's problems. I didn't get anybody to agree with China good, but I got agreement that the US should pressure its allies like the Saudis and Israelis before trying to do anything about China, which is largely out of our control (and ofc deal with our own domestic issues). I'd say, challenge blatant falsehoods while otherwise being flexible on what people come away with.
I haven't breached the subject of DPRK, but I went off talking about the history of Iran and Operation Ajax, which certainly made me look at things from a different perspective. I even told the story to my chud parents and they didn't shut me down, at least. I think providing historical context is essential, and fortunately you can ground everything in historical facts and its distant enough that people don't feel directly challenged by it.
Works better with people you know IRL, IME. In any case, don't feel like you have to get them all the way to "China good" or it's a failure, just take what you can get.